Dr. Steven Greer’s Response to Stephen Hawking’s Comment on Aliens

by Dr. Stephen Greer, The Disclosure Project, April 26, 2010
Published here: Thursday, April 29, 2010 @ 5:44 AM

Dr. Steven Greer

Wes Penre’s Comment:

It is interesting how Dr. Greer is always attacking everybody who says that aliens, or at least some of them, visiting us are malevolent towards mankind. He did the same to me after he’d released his long video with the 500+ witnesses. I was met with aggression and antagonism when I suggested that we can’t trust that every single alien race coming here is our friend — same treatment was given Project Camelot and others.

This comment from Dr. Greer is a response to a previous post on this blog: “Don’t Talk to Aliens, Warns Stephen Hawking“. I am not in agreement with Hawking either, and believe we have to be very careful when contacting alien species — whether they are from outer space, inter-dimensonal or already here on Earth. It can be extremely hard to distinguish the good intended from their opposites. To be able to do that, the human spirit has to be highly evolved and very psychic, so we can feel out the energies and trust our intuition.

So, like I’ve suggested so many times before, we need to develop our spiritual selves and wake up to what is happening all around us. Our only chance to graduate from this chaotic 3D reality is to evolve spiritually. And there is not much time. Still, we CAN do it!

Steven Greer:

It is unfortunate that Stephen Hawking has added his voice to a growing chorus of xenophobia and fear regarding what he terms “Aliens.”

Secondly, as a scientist, he should know better: Any interstellar civilization would possess such technologies that the meager resources of Earth would be unneeded. If you can travel faster than the speed of light, you can manifest what is needed. Period. Moreover, IF they were hostile- since ETs are already visiting Earth (see http://www.DisclosureProject.org)- this would have been made crystal clear when we detonated the first atomic weapon in 1945. To date, no place on Earth has been invaded or attacked or colonized.

Hawking should refrain from stirring the war-mongering fear pot that attends all things “alien.” And one might ask: Why would he make such statements, unless he is carrying water for the military-industrial-financial complex which profiteers off of the wars that fear breeds?

Steven M. Greer MD
April 26, 2010


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138 thoughts on “Dr. Steven Greer’s Response to Stephen Hawking’s Comment on Aliens

  1. Arvind sangle

    Is it true that Hitler also got the technology of fighter tank from alian ufo and submarine also what is the relation of symbol of swastik with alian and Hitler

    1. Felix Scerri

      Evidence please. You can’t just make claims without supporting your theory. Greer knows his stuff, he has many connections to support his claims.

  2. Sumarianson

    Apparently, it’s already happened!
    The Keshe Foundation has released blueprints of its 0 point plasma technology! A firm is rolling out the devices @ $200 each but you can build your own!
    This will change the whole game play! Dr. Steven Greer should be involved to spread the word that we are already in the place he
    invisaged for so long! With the release of free energy open source technology! There will now be no need for Governments to admit to keeping Aliens and such technology secret! It will be obvious to all!

    1. In the past I have been taken in by these claims and one by one they have come to nothing. Greer is right in the thick of that scam with his BS. Anyhow, a simple little internet research about the latest promise is rather revealing it is just another load of hot air! Prove me wrong?

      1. Quint

        Could you share your internet research sources? I’m actually interested. I agree with you, would just like the quick link to some of your sourcing. I’m not saying I don’t believe in the possibility that we have been or are being visited by alien life forms. I personally have not had any experiences, but I still think it’s possible. I just think Greer offers a great deal of information as though it is hard fact, and in no way does he ever so much as slightly present anything as if it is just an opinion. So, to me at least, this crushes his credibility. He often talks about having real proof that he of course can’t let anyone see in interest of protecting the anynomous sources.

      2. Toby

        “It is now estimated that for every grain of sand on Earth there is another Earth-like planet capable of sustaining life… so can we really be alone?”
        Unacknowledged: An Expose Of The Words Greatest Secret
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “I believe that these ET vehicles and their crews are visiting from other planets… which obviously are a little more technically advanced than we are here on Earth.”
        Major Gordon Cooper
        NASA Astronaut
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exists, are not constructed by any power on Earth.”
        Harry S. Truman
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “The phenomenon of UFO’s does exist… and it must be taken seriously.”
        Mikhail Gorbachev
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “It [UFO] followed us during half of our orbit. We observed it on the light side, and then when we entered the shadow side, it disappeared completely.”
        Victor Afanasyev
        Soviet Cosmonaut
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        “At no time when the astronauts were in space were they alone: there was constant surveillance by UFO’s”
        Commander Scott Carpenter
        NASA Astronaut
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        “This is very important for the public to understand. How do you keep a secret? You hide it in plain sight. So it’s there… everyone… I mean 5% of the U.S. population have seen these objects. But you create an environment where the subject is so pilloried and ridiculed, that no respectable scientist or Doctor would want to be identified with it.”
        “This is in these [government] documents. This is not a theoretical case [that I’m making]. Which is why I say… You form a committee when you want to kill something.”
        Steven M. Greer M.D.
        Trauma Surgeon
        Founder: The Disclosure Project
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “The [national security] structure of [Sky People] secrecy extends to the science and academic arenas where a deliberate effort to spread disinformation has been going on for decades. From professional debunkers, to CIA funded committees, to our trusted academics and scientists, [they] have been complicit in the secrecy.
        Unacknowledged: An Expose Of The Worlds Greatest Secret.
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “I must admit that any favorable mention of the the flying saucers by a scientist amounts to extreme heresy and places the one making the statement in danger of excommunication by the scientific theocracy.”
        Frank B. Salisbury Ph.D
        Plant Physiologist
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        “I believe the American people are entitled to a more thorough explanation than has been given them by the Air Force. I think that we owe it to the people to establish credibility regarding UFO’s, and to produce the greatest possible enlightenment of the subject.”
        Gerald R. Ford
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “As I got closer it looked like a weather balloon, grey and about three feet in diameter. But as soon as I got behind the darn thing it didn’t look like a balloon anymore. It looked like a saucer, a disk. About the same time, I realized that it was suddenly going away from me… and there I was, running at about 300 miles per hour. I tracked it for a little ways, and then all of a sudden the damn thing just took off. It pulled a 45 degree climbing turn and accelerated and just flat disappeared.”
        Major Donald “Deke” Clayton
        NASA Astronaut
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        “At various times I had loaded and unloaded nuclear weapons and I was considered sane, so to speak, and able to handle nuclear weapons. But apparently UFO’s are… well, I know they’re well above even nuclear weapons in secrecy. One particular night we just finished our refueling mission, London Control called us and asked if we would intercept a UFO over the center of England, roughly in the Stonehenge, Oxford area. We’re up at 33,OOO feet, and these UFO’s are down at about 1,OOO feet. We dove on it. Eventually we got up close to it, and we could see what looked like a cruise ship out at sea with all the lights and everything. [We] Got about a mile from it and it went up into space. [Then] London control said ‘You can continue on with your mission.’ Apparently, Prince Philip thought this it was very important. We were invited to dinner at the Officer’s Club where he was a speaker, and he knew all about the fact that we had chased the UFO. He kind of made me a believer in it [ever] since. I had seen him personally, of course, before that… but when someone of his stature indicates that, um, they’re real, and probably from another planet, it’s very convincing.”
        Major George A. Filer III
        Intelligence Officer
        United States Air Force
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “I am convinced that UFO’s exist because I have seen one.”
        “It was the darnedest thing I’ve ever seen. It was big, it was very bright, it changed colors, and it was about the size of the moon.”
        “I don’t laugh at people anymore when they say they’ve seen UFO’s. I’ve seen one myself.”
        Jimmy Carter
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “UFO’s are as real as the planes flying over your head. And it is time that the United States Government started coming clean as to what it’s all about because there are very important military and economic issues that have to be addressed. And how can you address a question that relates to a subject that people won’t even admit exists?”
        Paul Hellyer
        Minister Of Defense
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        “There was an invitation extended from the Vatican to some 4O world scientists to come to Castle Gandolfo outside of Rome where the pontifical observatory is. And they spent a week briefing the highest level members of the Vatican. They [later] came out with an official press statement: ‘Extra-Terrestrial life is going to be discovered much sooner than anybody had previously expected. And for this reason the time has now arrived for the beginning of a very serious discussion about the philosophical and theological questions that are posed to our human family by the discovery of Extra-Terrestrial life.’”
        Daniel P. Sheehan Esq.
        Constitutional Attorney
        Former Legal Counsel:
        The Jesuit National Headquarters
        Washington D.C.
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        “There are civilizations which we need to communicate with. And I think that we’ve reached that point in our evolution as a human race and we need to recognize that. And… the thing that disturbs me… is that the U.S is going to be a third-world nation in this field if we’re not careful. By having all of this secrecy and refusing to set up any kind of diplomatic protocols as I know that you [Dr. Greer] have called for, and I believe in very strongly.”
        Franklin Carter
        Electronic Radar Technician
        U.S. Navy
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        “Since 2OO1 twenty-four countries have opened their UFO files to the public, including Australia, the United Kingdom, Vatican City, Germany, Russia and Canada. The United States is not yet among them.”
        Documentary Film on Sky People
        Steven M. Greer M.D.
        Trauma Surgeon
        Founder: The Disclosure Project
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        “This is a document talking about a current program at the CIA, and it says that… ‘the PAO (Public Affairs Office) has relationships with reporters from every underlying wire service, newspaper and news weekly, and television network in the nation. In many instances we have persuaded reporters to postpone, change, hold or even scrap stories that could have adversely affected national security or jeopardized our sources and methods’ And it goes on to say that they have this same [arrangement] within Academic circles. Now, what’s the purpose of this? The CIA has no mandate for anything domestic. The FBI is domestic. What the hell is this [document]?”
        Steven M. Greer M.D.
        Trauma Surgeon
        Founder: The Disclosure Project
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        “I am one of those, what you would call, a high government official in the FAA. I was the Division Chief. I was only three or four down from the Admiral. So I forget who it was that called, but he say’s ‘We got a problem here.’ [I respond] What’s the problem? He say’s ‘Well, it’s that UFO.’
        A Japanese airline 747 was coming from the northwest, going across the Alaskan territory. He called and asked if the controller had any traffic at his altitude. His radar is picking up a target. He see’s this target with his eye, and the target, the way he describes it [is] a huge ball with lights running around it, and I think that he said it was like four times as big as a 747.
        The Japanese pilot would say…’Now he’s at 11:OO, he’s now at 1:OO, he’s now at 3:OO. When he would say that, the military guy would cut in and say ‘he’s now at 2:OO or 3:OO’ and he would confirm the position.
        They [our government] brought in three people from the FBI, three people from the CIA, and three people from Reagan’s scientific study team, and I don’t know who the rest of the people were. When they got done, they actually swore these other guys into… um… that… uh… ‘this never took place.’ This was one of the guys from the CIA. He also said that this was the first time that they ever had thirty minutes of radar data on a UFO. And [so] they’re all itching to get their hands on this data, and [he says] if they [were] to come out and tell the American public, ‘that they ran into a UFO out there, it would cause panic across the country. So therefore you can’t talk about it.’
        And they are taking all of this data. Now, I had the original [radar] video that I took, and I had the pilot’s report which came through, and I had the FAA’s Press report that was all downstairs on my desk. They didn’t ask for that… so I didn’t give it to them.* But who do you tell that you were involved in a UFO incident without them looking at you as if you ain’t wrapped too tight?”
        John Callahan
        FAA Division Chief
        * You can see his documentation of this UFO incident if you watch Unacknowledged: An Expose Of The World’s Greatest Secret.
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “For many years I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists in astronautics. I can now reveal that every day, in the USA, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public. Why? Because authority is afraid that people may think of God knows what kind of horrible invaders. So the password still is: We have to avoid panic by all means.”
        Major Gordon Cooper
        NASA Astronaut
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “I feel that the Air Force has not been giving out all the available information on these Unidentified Flying Objects. You cannot disregard so many unimpeachable sources.”
        Honorable John McCormack
        Speaker Of The House:
        Congress Of The United States Of America
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        “We followed it [UFO] for several minutes. It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield, and all of a sudden, to our utter amazement, it went straight up into the heavens. When I got off the plane I told Nancy all about it.”
        Ronald Reagan
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “Yes there had been ET visitation. There had been crashed craft. There had been material and bodies recovered. And there is some group of people somewhere that may or may not be associated with [our] government at this point, but certainly were at one time, that had this knowledge… and had been attempting to conceal this knowledge.”
        Captain Edgar Mitchell Ph.D
        NASA Astronaut
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “I was assigned as a special agent with the Air Force Office [of] Special Investigations at Kirkland Air Force base [New Mexico]. I was a counter-intelligence officer at the base. During my time there, my first few months there, I was briefed into a special access program (SAP) involving the U.S. government’s investigation and contacts with Extra-Terrestrials… the visitation of these Extra-Terrestrials to Earth. And it started out with a crash at Roswell.”
        “The creatures were about, uh, four feet [tall]. Some of the creatures were mangled… were heavily injured, and their bodies were torn apart. And we were told that the Extra-Terrestrials went to Kirkland field, Kirkland Air Force base, and then on to Los Alamos. But the creatures were approximately four foot tall, they didn’t appear to have any ears, they [just] had an indentation for the ears… very, very big eyes. [They] Almost looked as if they were nude but they actually had a thin but tight fitting suit on. [The surviving beings] Died in… I believe it was about 1952. But the bodies which were found at the scene were placed in a deep freeze, and sent to Wright Patt field in Dayton Ohio”
        Richard C. Doty
        OSI Special Agent
        United States Air Force
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        “First I thought it was a child because it was small. And then I looked at it’s head and all. The head was different, the arms were spindly, the body was grey.”
        “Give this information to the young people of the world and this country. They want to hear it. They want it. Give it to them. Don’t hide it, and tell lies, and make up stories. They’re not stupid young men [people] who will panic.”
        Lt. Col. Philip J. Corso
        United States Army
        (Recalling the Alien bodies that he observed at the Roswell crash site)
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        “The event at Roswell because it resulted in the acquisition of material which could be studied created a sea change in the whole national security organization. Because within weeks of the event the CIA was formed. Within weeks there was the formation of the Air Force which was split off from the Army Air Force. It also lead, however, to the development of special access projects (SAP’s). Which is why Eisenhower, even though he knew about the subject on a fairly deep level, had completely lost control of it by 1961 when he left office.”
        “Roswell’s almost become a joke because there is so much myth and narrative around it. But… if you look at the Guy Hottel document: there was a field agent report sent to J. Edgar Hoover [stating] ‘The three so-called flying saucers had been recovered in New Mexico. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape, but only three feet tall.’ This case report has become the number one document viewed on the FBI web-site after we released it [to the public.”]
        Dr. Steven M. Greer M.D.
        Trauma Surgeon
        Founder: The Disclosure Project
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        “The underlying theme which connects all of our case files is the fact that these close encounters tend to occur near our nuclear facilities suggesting that these visitors are deeply concerned with our hostility, and the existential threat that we pose to ourselves… once we learned to split the atom.”
        Unacknowledged: An Expose Of The Worlds Greatest Secret.
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        “[I said to him] Assuming that they [Sky People] have always been there, I don’t know what caused this great interest in us, this large incursion after 1947. And I remember that he thought for a moment and then said… ‘Well, obviously, it must be our Atom Bomb.”
        “If you accept the Bouncer Dimensional Theory it’s highly likely that we’ve done a hell of a lot of damage in somebody else’s world. We might even have done more damage [there] than we have done here.”
        Gordon Creighton
        British Foreign Service Officer
        United Kingdom
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        “We just dropped two [Atomic] bombs on a country and we had a test of that bomb a few months earlier, or a few weeks earlier, in New Mexico. This probably was observed by these Aliens somewhere, whether they were doing recognizance back then, or [I don’t know] how they figured it out.* So they came here to observe, and try and figure out what the heck was that.”
        Richard C. Doty
        OSI Special Agent
        United States Air Force
        * See second paragraph of the quote comment directly above.
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        “At the time of the [Roswell] crash, shortly after the detonation of the first Atomic Weapons, Roswell was the only nuclear armed squadron in the world.”
        Unacknowledged: An Expose Of The Worlds Greatest Secret
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        “It was early in the morning, I received a call from my top side security guard. He and some of the guards had been observing some strange lights flying around the launch control facility, and I said… whoa… you mean UFO? I think I actually used that word. He didn’t know what they were. But they were lights… they were flying around. I just kind of shook my head and said, well, call me if anything more important happens. He calls back, and this time he’s very frightened. I can tell by the tone of his voice that he’s very shook up, and he says… Sir, there’s a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. And as I was relating [to this] with him, our missiles started shutting down one by one. The Air Force did an extensive investigation of the entire incident, and was not able to come up with a probable cause for the shutdowns. The missiles are not connected to each other. Having a fault at one site would not effect missiles that are at another location.”
        Captain Robert Salas
        United States Air Force
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        “We should go boldly where man has not gone before, Fly by the comets, visit the asteroids… visit the moon of Mars. There’s a monolith… there’s a very unusual structure on this little potato shaped object which goes around Mars once in seven hours. When people find out about that they’re gonna say…’Who put that there? Who put that there?’”
        Colonel Buzz Aldrin
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        “Of course the flying saucers are real… and they are interplanetary.”
        Lord Hugh Dowding
        Air Chief Marshal
        Royal Air Force
        United Kingdom
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        “I was privileged to see what I consider to be a UFO very far out in the sky going at tremendous speed.”
        Sir Eric Gairy
        Prime Minister Of Grenada
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “So everything was going along pretty… just ho-hum routine. They dimmed the lights first in the Command Center when they said.. ‘Condition Zebra Alert.” Most of the time when they set these drills, they would say…’This is a drill, this is a drill.’ But they put the lights down this time and they didn’t say ‘this is a drill.’ [Because] We had contact with an unidentified object that had entered our air space. We had it on radar for almost an hour. The order was given by Admiral Train, to try and get this object forced down out of the sky if at all possible, by whatever means possible. What was really driving him nuts was this thing absolutely had control of the situation. And could just be wherever it wanted to be. Just in a matter of seconds. One minute [it’s] off the coast of Maine, and the next minute it’s in Norfolk headed south toward Florida. After we found out that it wasn’t the Russians. They didn’t care who it was or where it was from. They wanted it, and they wanted it bad.”
        Merle Shane McDow
        Top Secret SCI Clearance With Zebra Stripes
        U.S. Navy Atlantic Command
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        “There is no evidence, I wish to emphasize, that these lifeforms from elsewhere are hostile towards us.* But there is a great deal of evidence that they are concerned with our hostility.”
        Dr. Steven Greer M.D.
        Trauma Surgeon
        Founder: The Disclosure Project
        * Of course you are unlikely to understand this if you are a fan of Hollywood movies about Sky People. Some of which are probably covertly funded by the government to lay a pre-formative groundwork of fear.
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        “I was having a camera man film the installation of a precision landing facility we were putting in right on the edge of a dry lake. This saucer flew right over him and put down three little gear and landed on the dry lake bed. And they went out, picked up their cameras, and moved on out toward him, filming. And he lifted off, put the gear back in the well and climbed up at a very high rate of speed and disappeared. I was involved in the research and development of very classified programs myself. I knew that we didn’t have any vehicles of that kind, the Russians didn’t have any of that type either. At that point in time there was no doubt in my mind that this vehicle was made at some other place than here on Earth.”
        Major Gordon Cooper
        NASA Astronaut
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        “We have indeed, been contacted, perhaps even visited, by Extraterrestrial Beings. And the U.S. government, in collusion with the other national powers of the Earth, is determined to keep this information from the general public.”
        Victor Marchetti
        Special Assistant to the Executive Director of the CIA
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        “Of all the things to keep secret, the fact that there is this bountiful option that we have of reaching out into the stars and being friendly neighbors with other civilizations in sharing information, and sharing resources, and sharing knowledge, and sharing spiritual insights and values. To suppress that information, and to conceal it, is part of the efforts of the national security state which is threatened by this reality. So [therefore] this is one of the ultimate secrets that needs to be exposed.”
        “There are very clear efforts to engage in covert programs and to keep the knowledge away from [the] people, even [those] in positions of Constitutional authority.”
        “Based on what Jimmy Carter has said, and based on what Bill Clinton has said, that they were refused this information, I believe that it is unconstitutional for them to refuse to give this information to the President of the United States.”
        “There have been dozens and dozens of totally, absolutely important, credible people who have had their careers ruined, intentionally, by the national security bureaucracy because they have tried to come forward and fulfill what they viewed to be their duty to report this to their superiors.”
        “[We have] Internal documents from the Defense Department intelligence agencies explicitly stating that they want to have this campaign of ridiculing and destroying the credibility of completely credible, completely honest, eye witnesses to UFO sightings. And even sightings of Extra-Terrestrial beings on the ground that they want discredited. [These documents show that] They want these [witnesses] credibility destroyed.”
        Daniel P. Sheehan Esq.
        Constitutional Attorney
        Former Legal Counsel:
        The Jesuit National Headquarters
        Washington D.C.
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        “Since my name has become connected with UFO matters in quite a big way in this country. I have frequently been asked as a person of my background, a former chief of the NATO military committee, what the reasons may be for governments wishing to cover up the facts about UFO’s. That, I believe, is because governments fear that if they did disclose the facts people would panic.”*
        Lord Peter Hill-Norton
        Five Star Admiral
        Royal Navy
        Head Of The Ministry Of Defense
        Head Of The Military Committee For NATO
        United Kingdom
        * This rational that people would panic may simply be a way of justifying an agenda of secrecy which actually obscures a much more problematic motive or intention.
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “There are UFO’s over New York City and I ain’t too surprised.”
        John Lennon
        * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
        “The Phoenix [Arizona] Lights phenomenon [Plurality of UFO’s seen by 1O,OOO witnesses] didn’t seem to be falsifiable in any way. It was being validated by almost everybody that saw it.”
        Captain Edgar Mitchell Ph.D
        NASA Astronaut
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        “It is time for the truth to be brought out. Behind the scenes high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about the UFO’s. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe the unknown flying objects are nonsense. I urge immediate Congressional action to reduce the danger from secrecy about unidentified flying objects.”
        Vice Admiral Roscoe Hillenkoetter
        CIA Director
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        “Carl Sagan always asked ‘Where is the evidence’ or ‘where is the beef’ on the UFO issue. The fact is that we have so much evidence that Dr. J. Allen Hynek, who was in charge of Project Bluebook for the Air Force, stated that it is ‘an embarrassment of riches.’ We have so much.”
        “The question is… who are people like Carl Sagan, and before him Professor Donald Menzel? It turns out that Sagan, in his early career, actually spoke and wrote about UFO’s in a way that was affirmative… that was legitimate.
        ‘It now seems quite clear that Earth is not the only inhabited planet.’
        Carl Sagan
        After he was threatened by the Intelligence community and blackmailed he then began to debunk the issue. Skepticism is very healthy. I am a big skeptic about more than 9O% of the information out there on this subject… which the public needs to be skeptical about. However, skepticism is not just blindly denying everything which is legitimate.
        For example, we have 3,5OO cases where Extra-Terrestrial vehicles have landed and left physical traces. We have 4,OOO cases where they have been tracked on radar and seen by pilots. We have an enormous amount of photo and video evidence, and physical evidence. [We have] Over 5,OOO documents from the U.S. government, and hundreds of thousands of pages of documents from fourteen countries which have opened their files [to the public] since The Disclosure Project was launched eleven years ago. And yet… and yet… this isn’t on CNN every night.
        So the question becomes what is the metric for the evidence. Well, the evidence is actually overwhelming… there is more evidence for UFO’s than there are for black holes… or for most of the theories of Astrophysics… or for most of the evidence for the medications that you take… I am speaking now as a Trauma Doctor. And yet we have this blockage in the main stream media and scientific establishment saying ‘Where is the evidence?’ ‘What do we know.?’”
        Dr. Steven Greer M.D.
        Trauma Surgeon
        Founder: The Disclosure Project
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        “For all I know we may be visited by a different Extra-Terrestrial civilization every second Tuesday. But there is no support for this appealing idea. The extraordinary claims are not supported by extraordinary evidence.”
        “UFO’s are more a matter for religion and superstition than they are for science.”
        Carl Sagan Ph.D *
        Space science
        Planetary science
        Cornell University
        Harvard University
        Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory
        University of California, Berkeley
        Movies and TV shows:
        Cosmos: A Personal Voyage
        The Tonight Show: With Johnny Carson
        * I wonder if it’s possible whether being blackmailed, turned and run by your own government, whether being the foremost UFO debunker in America, can actually turn out to be extremely rewarding in a worldly sort of way?
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    2. Can you give me the name of anyone or any company that has successfully replicated any of the Kesch free energy technology? There are claims out there, but I am yet to see anything that is over unity.

    3. Felix Scerri

      Clearly you trust your government and the military industrial complex even more. They’ve got you hook line and sinker. According to his carers/handlers Stephen Hawking is controlled by the M.I.C., doped to the eyeballs most of the time used to spread their propaganda. Occasionally allowed to walk around straight and lucid. We have witnesses.

  3. Paul Hanley

    I think above all things relative to this subject, The main point of all this is that these advanced beings did not attain such a high level of evolution from being hostile. Hostility and malevolence is nothing but a means to an end for every and anything that has ever existed or ever will. Greer’s message is a simple one. If peace is to prevail then we shall reap the benefits of Evolution, just like these et’s… if your cheating on your girlfriend you are going to think she’s cheating too…it’s pretty much the same concept.. Just because humans are evil doesn’t mean everything else is. For any of you that would believe in a rapture that sure would be a more realistic one if they were to take the pure souls with them and leave the rest of the corrupt human trash behind.

    1. Ben Novick

      Paul: Your idea that “advanced beings did not attain such a high level of evolution from being hostile” is not supported by sociology and cultural anthropology. We will encounter good and bad aliens, just as we do humans, and need to be discerning in our reception and evaluation of them.
      Have a good evening.

      1. altovivago

        ‘Jill Tarter, former director of the Center for SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) also has expressed opinions about alien civilizations that are in stark contrast to Hawking’s.

        “While Sir Stephen Hawking warned that alien life might try to conquer or colonize Earth, I respectfully disagree,” Tarter said in a statement in 2012. “If aliens were to come here, it would be simply to explore. Considering the age of the universe, we probably wouldn’t be their first extraterrestrial encounter, either.’

      2. …psychotics aren’t necessarily “after resources”. Some kill for the pleasure of it. Assuming that the universe is packed full of benevolence is emotional knee jerking and has no basis in fact. Peace, love and understanding is all fine and well— but I’m not prepared to bet my life on it. So until we know for certain, lets not broadcast our presence to the universe, including pulsar maps, etc… Sheer ignorance— it would really suck to find out just before our beautiful planet is turned into a smoldering cinder. Lets just be prudent, where’s the harm in that?

        1. Ryan

          Has anyone ever stopped to think maybe that aliens biologically engineered humans and we have been the invasion this whole time? The project for collecting resources from a planet wouldn’t be to invade with your whole race. But they’d invade and either use the race that’s already on the planet, or build a race to mine the resources for them.

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    1. Isis

      Exactly, It is certain Hawkings has had many discussions with the “criminals” and without a shadow of doubt is on a pay roll. And to all our dismay, once a person of respect, Hawkings is just another criminal in this world and will be punished by the new coming and unstoppable groups who will expose and build ourselves the technologies currently denied to us.

      1. sumarianson

        Apparently, it’s already happened!
        The Keshe Foundation has released blueprints of its 0 point plasma technology! A firm is rolling out the devices @ $200 each but you can build your own!
        This will change the whole game play! Dr. Steven Greer should be involved to spread the word that we are already in the place he
        invisaged for so long! With the release of free energy open source technology! There will now be no need for Governments to admit to keeping Aliens and such technology secret! It will be obvious to all!

  5. Mark Quire

    UFOs have been here since the beginning…one would think that if whomever pilots these crafts wanted to do us harm they would have done so a long time ago.

  6. david

    hawking is an idiot. not because he’s in a wheel chair or because he has a debilitating condition for which i am sorry to learn of, but because he must be an idiot. He would have to be considering…
    You’d think someone with the title of one of the leading scientists in the world, would give a hoot to spend some time looking at the cosmos or night sky. et really isn’t that hard to find even without night vision or infra-red 940nm (or higher) gear. what is he doing with his time? with all the industry contacts he has, you’d think he would have known about and taken an interest in the nasa footage if he needed to be convinced, and was actually seeking which is undeniable when their own optical technicians couldn’t pick out their satellite amongst an armada of friendlies. see why hawking is an idiot… who gets paid money to speak lies… I wouldnt be surprised if he was appointed for this very reason.

    “He wanted to make a programme that was entertaining for a general audience as well as scientific and that’s a tough job, given the complexity of the ideas involved.”

    Yeah, it must be really complex to take a seat and swallow pride god forbid should he support his peers the way members of the scientific community should. not to mention that statement is basically a shifty way of saying they want to make a programme that is captivating despite its lack of factual content. propaganda and disinformation if you ask me. it would seem a joke to anybody that is familiar with the “elite’s” methods of brainwashing.

    you should be aware my friends, that there are several different “classes” of ufo’s out there. The only “unidentified” crafts should be those that are made on terra firma and abroad BUT only those that make up the existing fleets on the lower physical plane (hertzian). The reason for this is because in our hertzian reality, objects are only solid to us if the craft is also operating in our hertz spectrum, and a little part of infra-red. As soon as you ocillate higher towards visible light, you no longer need a materialistic craft because at that level, the pilot is free from dualism itself. It hasn’t been assigned as either male or female yet. It is pure consciousness (those white orbs is what you will look like in free-form without a body. This is the true ET msg to us. For those advanced entities that have evolved through the secrets of life and have earned the ability to manually take over the responsibility of creation, as they’ve earned it, they may create for themselves any form they desire. This is true and this is where a lot of the “shape shifting” reports originated from. Life is infinite. They can materialize into anything they like using focused thought to reach higher states of consciouess, where thoughts manifest quicker, due to a higher frequency resonance. Focus on the eagle and you will take shape as one, just like the caterpillar builds for itself a coccoon so it can dream the dream of the butterfly. in a few short days it will emerge with wings!

    There is so much to learn, and a lot of secrets can be found in nature. you just have to pick up on it. a lot of technology used for weapons were taken straight out of nature. Sonar for example.

    Another thing to note is that after visible light comes ultra violet. That’s when the laws of the quantum universe kicks in, and transport becomes instantaneous. It is free from time. You may see orbs disappearing or fading out, truth be told they are dematerializing from their frequency into another dimension which shares the same space. and thus it is inperceivable to our eyes (brain actually, it works like a decoder of information). These guys cannot be taken out. you can’t destroy pure consciousness, you can only affect its surroundings in such a fashion that on a chemical level, the signal is distorted. You might see footage of white orbs being shot down. I can assure you these are metalic crafts operating via spinning mercury as its power supply. At certain rates of revolutions, the mercury generates anti-gravity ALONG with a white glow. Not to be mistaken with our allies. USA and others have this mercury technology, and it accounts for most of the ufo space wars you see. Differentiating between foreign or domestic then becomes a matter of knowledge and having the right tools such as optics to help you identify what it is you’re watching.

    Of course, you can follow in the masters footsteps and evolve like them through meditation. They have tried hard to replicate technology that does what the human body can already do out of the womb. You raise the kundalini energy up from your genitals, where life is created, up through the astral plane, infra red and all the way to POINT ZERO, which is above gamma. Thus the triad seen associated with many secret societies, has proper meaning. I implore you to visit ramtha.com. and hear the goodness from a 35,000 year old who has returned through a channel to help reclaim the paradise that once was earth.

    take care.

      1. djfsubzero

        Thats because youre an old fart. On day one of physics class they teach you the basic energies/frequencies as produced by the sun. You might want to re-enroll for that lesson. Can you even define what new age is? Id love to hear your response considering the knowledge ive shared predates you and your family tree. how do you compare new age against what you currently know? u are obviously finding it difficult to excercise any degree of research into topics you evidently know little about, and by your response id say you have had little exposure to the massive array of material evidence that exists, incl. patents by the us military. it is also confirmed in ancient texts preserved by cultures found all over the planet and over very long periods of recorded history. Do your research thoroughly before you dismiss my words, or be willing to adjust your approach in a manner that suggests you are genuinely interested in progressing your learning. So far you are acting like a new age internet troll with no professional ethics when it comes to dealing with the validation of the information presented by members of this fine community. I have dedicated my life to this work so stubborn skeptics like you might see a day of hope. Dont post here if youre too lazy to get involved in any promisingly consistent way or too lazy to decipher your own You can start by projecting some more positivity and curtesy for the ppl here.

        1. you spell it like so: ‘courtesy’ , and no wonder you cannot spell it, your a fine one to talk when you start off calling me an “old fart”! Is that how you would conduct yourself at any conference if someone challenged your views?

          1. Julian,
            perhaps we started on the wrong foot, no? I did not mean to offend you by calling you an old fart, those that know me personally know i like to jk and keep a light heart, and i often say things that can be misinterpreted by one’s own tendency to filter the words the way they want to see it- without a tone of voice things can get messy. you are right if this was a conference i would have been more mindful of my choice of wording. while this is not to say that i would treat my correspondences here with less respect than i would a conference, i doubt you would stand up during a speech to say what you did, either.

            Everybody has freedom of speech. Just please understand that at this point in time so far down the line and so close to rapid global changes taking place, people including myself can oftentimes become a little annoyed having to be placed in the position where skepticism is still a prime issue. If you believe some of the facts that have come to light regarding ET life, it should be that much easier to consider other related information at least enough not to prematurely dismiss what has been shared. It is not that i do not value your input, its just that i have to assume that those people visiting these kind of websites are generally already open to new ideas. I did not expect your kind of initial response. It can be frustrating because there are so many people on the internet, especially youtube and also abovetopsecret, that do nothing but cloud other people’s opinions by attaching their own hasty or ill-conceived notions to the content being shared. Consequently, other people that see that response may be affected or influenced in a way that can spoil their outlook regarding the material that is being provided.

            It is part of my role as a person living in this lifetime to help make the transition from a yesteryear way of thinking to a future way of thinking more seamless and smooth for those that i am lucky to chat with. And despite what you may think, i understand very well the importance of affording people with however much time they need to enable them to make their transition a guarantee. Even if they need to go at their own pace that is fine and expected, as long as they are genuinely interested in adopting new mindsets that will definately be useful for what is to come.

            Who would i be if not for a concerned member of society, one that respects and adores his felloh man as he does all things holy? We are all on the same team even if it appears unlikely at this stage. I do not say anything unless i believe there is value in the information, and i contribute in any way i can because it makes me feel better as a person knowing that someone out there, if even just one person, has been positively affected by my contributions; and likewise disheartened on the odd occasion that I have failed to do just that.

            Steven greer has come a long way, as many other have also. In the movie “Sirius,” he makes a statement that basically summed up his entire persona. Steve points out that one of his greatest concerns is that even if something should happen to him, that as long as the work continues, which is the main thing, then he is content and couldn’t ask for much more than that. The way he said it reminded me of those exact words that came out of my mouth years ago, and in that moment i knew Steve to be a friend forever even if i never meet him in person.

            Let’s keep our chins up and heads in the game, and let’s see if we can’t make something of this golden opportunity for expanded consciousness.

            Thumbs up.

        2. Bravo! It is wonderful to have a scientific explanation for many of the things I’ve witnessed and experienced. Because of the flaming that was going on I didn’t share these things. However, I’ve had a varied range of encounters right down to a 1995 abduction and time loss (*with* a friend and random witness of 3 leaving craft). I would love to speak with someone confidential and open minded about things. Djfsubzero, do you know of anyone who is interested in hearing people’s stories of encounters? I have a hunch that despite how “out there” what I have to say may seem, that these things are relatively common.

          1. I would love to see the flaming stop and people talk like mature rational adults. How does a professional and reputable scientist debate?

            Btw I meant to include david’s name. I’m on my way out the door but couldn’t resist checking my email and the new comments on this thread.

          2. StarSunFlower,

            Thank you for the kind words, I can say with confidence that many people feel the same and are starting to share their experiences without fear of ridicule. God is with you always. Yes in fact i would know a very reputable doctor/paranormal research team that has been documenting these experiences for many years. I can provide you with the details if you want to contribute your experiences towards an official archive of enquiries into the matter. and, of course, it will be my pleasure to speak with you confidentially regarging your experiences. You deserve the attention of those who know how to listen, those with enough experience to provide useful feedback and/or instruction as needed. pls leave me an email address and ill contact you asap when i get home to continue the discussion :)

            1. Thanks so much. I spoke with someone at Mufon however, it would be nice to talk about a different level of things I was not willing to discuss there at this time.

              It would also be nice to contribute to an archive, for various reasons such as statistical information. My email address: su -[[at]]- starsunflowerstudio -[[dot]]- com

              That’s sue without an E. Thanks again!

            2. StarSunFlower,

              You are very welcome, thanks for providing your contact details. I will be shipping you off an email very soon. Hopefully when things settle down for the day i will be able to commit myself with due diligence to assist you in any way i can.

              Looking forward to it,


      1. Boycotting? is he serious? what happened to freedom of speech?

        I choose not to take into consideration the fact that he has a debilitating condition. I see him as an equal and i can only comment on his input into important matters. If i had a contact list and a repertoire of instruments at my disposal as he does, i bet i could come up with a better explanation regarding life in the universe. He’s a genius in many respects, and i just don’t see how he chooses not to divulge that which is already obvious and evident to many people with the naked eye, let alone with sophisticated equipment. He has the power to do so much more than simply just comment upon what he sees in the universe. So many people stare out into the abyss and it doesn’t click that they are gazing upon an aspect of themselves. We watch gamma bursts in motion and a variety of other energies in the universe, and it must be so enchanting because few have asked the question, how do these energies interact with the human body? How does the human body interact with it? Can our frequencies be heightened as such that the view of the universe becomes different, and therefore more easily explainable? it is easy to fall into the trap of always looking “out there” when he of all people is capable of discovering the answer is in him. No offense to this man, but usually what people lack in function in certain parts of their brain, they gain in other areas. Take communication for instance, there are many many cases whereby people have devloped other “non-local” forms of communication. I won’t say telepathy as such, but these guys are oftentimes very keen in their psychic senses.

        He should be aware that after visible light speed, the speed of travel becomes very close to instantaneous as it relates to the quantum field. Travelling from point a to point b in a straight line as it were, seems to be a very limited expression of intersteller travel. I don’t agree with some of his statements whereby he claims it would take x amount of time for ET to find us operating at the speed of light, and life is so far away that it would take them too long to get here in our lifetime! even at 100 times the distance of the sun to the earth, it should have been obvious to him as it is to those that have consumer-grade optical equipment, that surely et would have found us by now, and there’d be something to see and investigate upon further.
        Not to mention the fact that hertzian, infra red, visible light, ultra violet, xray, gamma and right up point zero energy are not just intangible things that have no meaning to us here on the physical. They are actually compartmentalized dimensions of a unified whole which can be inhabited just the same, on the provisor that you are vibrating at the same frequency. There is no mention of this anywhere.

        He is a good guy, don’t know what that boycott was about, but it would be nice to see the leaders of the scientific community start to divulge what they really know, without censorship or fear of consequences by those that seek to keep knowledge hidden. We need him and others to take a leap of faith.

        1. Freedom of speech is a good thing. ::winks::

          Some of you may enjoy these videos. I found them about a month ago and thought they were super fun.

          Symphony of Science – A Wave of Reason

          “A Wave of Reason” is the seventh installment in the Symphony of Science music video series. It is intended to promote scientific reasoning and skepticism in the face of growing amounts of pseudoscientific pursuits, such as Astrology and Homeopathy, and also to promote the scientific worldview as equally enlightening as religion. It features Carl Sagan, Bertrand Russell, Sam Harris, Michael Shermer, Lawrence Krauss, Carolyn Porco, Richard Dawkins, Richard Feynman, Phil Plait, and James Randi.

          Symphony of Science – the Quantum World!

          A musical investigation into the nature of atoms and subatomic particles, the jiggly things that make up everything we see. Featuring Morgan Freeman, Stephen Hawking, Michio Kaku, Brian Cox, Richard Feynman, and Frank Close.

          “The Quantum World” is the eleventh installment in the ongoing Symphony of Science music video series. Materials used in the creation of this video are from:

          Richard Feynman – Fun to Imagine
          BBC Visions of the Future – the Quantum Revolution
          Through the Wormhole with Morgan Freeman
          Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking
          Brian Cox TED Talk
          BBC What Time is it
          BBC Wonders of the Universe
          BBC Horizon – What Is Reality

          Symphony of Science – ‘Our Place in the Cosmos’ (ft. Sagan, Dawkins, Ka

          “Our Place in the Cosmos”, the third video from the Symphony of Science, was crafted using samples from Carl Sagan’s Cosmos, Richard Dawkins’ Genius of Charles Darwin series, Dawkins’ TED Talk, Stephen Hawking’s Universe series, Michio Kaku’s interview on Physics and aliens, plus added visuals from Baraka, Koyaanisqatsi, History Channel’s Universe series, and IMAX Cosmic Voyage. The themes present in this song are intended to explore our understanding of our origins within the universe, and to challenge the commonplace notion that humans have a superior or privleged position, both on our home planet and in the universe itself.

          We are all connected:

          “We Are All Connected” was made from sampling Carl Sagan’s Cosmos, The History Channel’s Universe series, Richard Feynman’s 1983 interviews, Neil deGrasse Tyson’s cosmic sermon, and Bill Nye’s Eyes of Nye Series, plus added visuals from The Elegant Universe (NOVA), Stephen Hawking’s Universe, Cosmos, the Powers of 10, and more. It is a tribute to great minds of science, intended to spread scientific knowledge and philosophy through the medium of music.

          We Are Stardust:

          Carl Sagan – ‘A Glorious Dawn’ ft Stephen Hawking (Symphony of Science)

          Carl Sagan and his cosmologist companion Stephen Hawking present: A Glorious Dawn – Cosmos remixed. Almost all samples and footage taken from Carl Sagan’s Cosmos and Stephen Hawking’s Universe series.

        2. I really respect him for boycotting and making a stand against the evil Zionist israel. It is their Mossad which were a big part of the false flag of 9/11. I saw a very interesting video the other day I will share here. I don’t know what to make of it. I had previously got serious doubts about Dr Judy Wood’s theories, but ….hmmm well I dunno. Some weird shit is going on. I remember quite a while back seeing a video of the 9/11 attacks where orbs seemed to be observed on video! Any way, see what you think: Pt.2/5 The 9/11 WTC Paradox ~ Holographic Deception Operations & Occult Technology, Fake Planes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XnGk9fz8gM
          Now thing is with this weird shit is NOT to dismiss it ALL, but somehow just be receptive and keep critical thinking, and be aware of other stuff–like the UFO phenomenon, and the occult clues all over 9/11 etc etc etc. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? has to be the biggest question.If we understand that this elite is into the occult, this may give hints that they have developed technology that they are using secretly and to our detriment. They are insane. As I see it from a Goddess perspective. They are like rebel brats raging against a fierce daddy ‘God’ and taking on an archetypal image (which is part OF the Judeo Christian worldview which is patriarchal) of the Big Rebel Lucifer who defied ‘God’ (notice it is all males…??) And as it says in video–as Cooper says–but they are all ultra humanists. They think they can become and/or are gods, and can create their own ‘paradise’ which actually IS and will be more hell, because they are completely insane. They are a carry on of the insanity of other psychopaths like Hitler and the Nazis.

          1. If that’s a ufo craft in the footage you are pointing to, what if it is something not involved in the attacks, but an “observer” attempting to make its presence known?

            Someone described something that was going on before 9/11 happened and I can’t remember all of the details. It had to do with NESARA (release of prosperity funds) and ET disclosure. I don’t readily have the ability to research information about the ET disclosure part, with the exception of the 2001 National Press Club Event (The Disclosure Project) in may of 2001. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkswXVmG4xM

            http://web.archive.org/web/20020606201731/http://www.ustreas.gov/education/faq/markets/economy.html (an archived page from http://www.treasury.gov)

            I have heard about the National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act (NESARA) and believe that it should be enacted into law as quickly as possible to help improve the economy. Will you support this legislation?

            Maintaining a strong and prosperous economy is a top priority of the President and his administration. Secretary O’Neill appreciates hearing ideas — like the National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act (NESARA) — put forward by concerned citizens.

            As you are aware, the NESARA proposal has not yet been introduced in the Congress, nor is it part of any current law. The Treasury Department is not authorized, under our political system of checks and balances, to execute or administer any part of NESARA, without the force of law as approved by Congress.

            Both the President and Secretary O’Neill are working with members of Congress to craft sound policies to stimulate the economy. In the middle of the year, the Economic Growth and Tax Relief Reconciliation Act was enacted, a very rapid response to the recent economic slowdown. As part of that legislation, advance tax refunds were sent out starting in July, which quickly put money back into the hands of consumers.

            After the terrorist attacks of September 11 and the resulting economic dislocations, it appears that further stimulus is necessary to keep the economy growing at a healthy pace.The Administration continues to believe that reducing the tax burden on corporations, consumers, and small businessmen is the best way to stimulate the economy, by leaving a larger share of income in the hands of those who know their own interest best.


            From the Wikipedia entry on NESARA:

            According to Goodwin’s website, the NESARA bill languished in Congress before finally being passed by a secret session in March 2000 and signed by President Bill Clinton. It is claimed that the new law was to be implemented at 10 am on September 11, 2001, but that the computers, and data (of the beneficiaries of the trillions of dollars of “Prosperity funds”) were destroyed on the second floor of one of the World Trade Center towers in New York City during the terrorist attacks. Supposedly an earlier gag order issued by the Supreme Court had prohibited any official or private source from discussing it, under penalty of death.[3][4][5] Goodwin referred to “White Knights,” most of them high-ranking military officials, who have since been struggling to have the law implemented despite opposition by President George W. Bush. Goodwin allegedly believes and purports that Bush orchestrated the September 11, 2001 attacks and the Iraq War as distractions from NESARA.[6][7] Goodwin’s description of NESARA goes far beyond Barnard’s proposal by cancelling all personal debts, abolishing the Internal Revenue Service, declaring world peace, and requiring new presidential and congressional elections. Goodwin often claimed that Bush officials were attempting to hack into and bring down her web site to prevent her from publicizing the law.[8]

            1. 9/11 was far deeper than just some ‘quickly’ staged event to cover-up a Bill or UFO disclosure (funnly enough in the months leading up to 9/11 I was very much into looking at The Disclosure Project, and 9/11 threw me right off that path for quite a while). (/11 was meticulously planned and has full of occult correspondences and is really in big part an operation to bring in their ‘New Aeon’ of evil—their insane globalist dream which is our nightmare.

    1. Sifu Chop

      I don’t know if you are a university graduate or graduand, but I hope that you learn something from this. I don’t mean to be insulting, but you don’t understand much. Just your statement that Professor Hawking is an idiot…not because he is in a wheel chair, but…is extremely poor. I have a few tiny points to raise, because I am too angry to address the major stuff. 1. Most expert speakers are paid for their expert opinions, if they are experts, and because it took them a long time and effort to become experts. This does not mean that they are “working” for someone: They hand over their own opinions for a fee or for free, because they are experts in a field. 2. Do you know what a Professor is? It is not a person whose job is to teach in universities. Sometimes they teach as well as do admin, research and writing. They hold actual Professorships, and/or Chairs in specific schools in universities. In my country, we virtually have to wait for people to die to have a chance of becoming a full and tenured Professor. I have spent 26 years studying at various, well-known universities to become a Doctor of Science (DSc, or DS if you are in US). A DSc is one of three higher doctoral degrees; higher than a PhD, and very different. But a PhD in UK-stye universities requires the writing of a 100,000 word thesis, not a dissertation, based on one’s original research, which must bring new knowledge to one’s field of study/expertise. One has a 10 year limit to complete his/here thesis, and most people take between 3 and 10 years, in a proper PhD programme. This does not explain how truly hard it is to earn a doctoral qualification outside of the (good universities). I might have a high IQ score, which is not very meaningful, but I am smart enough to know that I only understand how little I understand of Hawking’s work. He is an intellectual giant. I’m not even a blip on the expert radar. He would not even waste his time talking to me, and he should not. I’m not a Professor, a highly paid position in this country, I am a Senior University Lecturer, which is what many people in the US call a Professor, and I have been an Associate Prof., But I don’t have what it takes to be a full Professor. Hawking has sad some unusual things about ETs/EBEs, and maybe he should not have done so as it is outside of his bailiwick. But everyone is entitled to their own opinions in most/many countries, but Professor Hawking (don’t call him Dr, as it is incorrect) is a bonafide genius in the real sense of the word.
      Regards, Anonymous Dr.

    2. manuel

      In a way I have to agree with Hawking about the possible threat that ETs may present against us. The mere fact that we do not know of any place that has been invaded does not mean none has been invaded. Some say that millions of people have been abducted by aliens for genetic experiments and our government is painfully silent on these matters. Until we are absolutely sure we know who or what we are dealing with, I think we should be very cautious and not assume anything good or bad.

      There is also the matter of catching diseases from these beings. They may have viruses that cannot be cured by any anti-biotic we have and vice-versa. HIV virus may have come from them and until now, we have not found the cure for it. At this time, it is wise that any contact be done by authorized government agencies for the protection of the people. We should not endanger ourselves and others in our search for truth. Just saying.

    3. “Mental things alone are real;what is called Corporeal,nobody really knows of its dwelling place:it is in fact a fallacy & its existence is an imposture,Where is the existence outside of Mind or Thought?
      Where is it but in the mind of a fool.”–Wm Blake

      We cannot rely solely on sense data as a method of perceiving reality for as the Poet Blake himself has said…”We are led to believe a lie when we see with and not thru the eye which was born in a night to perish in a night, the eternal body of man is the Imagination and that is God himself.

      Is it any wonder then why the poet Blake would call the sky God Nobody? Because there’s nobody out there.

      “The Concave Universe opens like a flower from the within to the without.”—Blake

      “For man has closed himself up til he sees all things thru narrow chinks of his cavern,But if the Doors of Perception were cleansed,Everything would appear to man as it is Infinite.”—Blake

      And for my favorite quote of all from Mr. Blake…”Truly Satan thou art but a dunce and does not know the garment from the man.”

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  8. Why are there so many visitors on this site flaming each other?? If you are not interested in the subject, or what other people have to say about the subject, it would probably be wiser to keep your opinions to yourself and move on to a different web site.
    That being said I personally think Dr. Greer is doing an excellent job in raising awareness to the situation. Kudos.
    And for the disbeliever I only have on thing to say, OPEN YOUR MIND!

  9. SPYRO

    lonefrog sounds like he wants everybody to believe he’s more educated on this subject then anyone. Just because you talk down to people, like a poormans Glen Beck doesn’t make you the “paranormal police” buddy. You seem like the kinda guy that throws shit around when you don’t get your way, or hit women, y’know? The kinda guy that justifies unjustifiable insults. I hope you’re abducted one day, and everyone discredits your story, and explains your post probe walk, with a story of a lippy, prison pocket holder. Play nice man, or get lost dude.

    1. Hear me ! ! !

      IAmSuperior ! ! !

      SPYRO wants my position but can’t have it til IAmDead ! ! !

      IAm now going outside to throw a tree at my dog and send smoke signals to Zeta Ritculon 5 in hopes of becoming a proud new owner of a prison lippy pocket holder? (dunno).

      Look dood, your tantrum was just fine until you said that bit about women, then it got a little too ADD HOMINEMY for me and you just came off lookin’ like you were Hippie Girls boyfriend or something. “I must defend her honor and make the Frog play nice methinks”.

      Whateva’s cleva dood.

      PS – Who is Glen Beck?

  10. jc

    Over 2.5 mil abductions, ongoing cattle & human mutilations by the thousands …..
    Over 30.000 missing persons annually In the U.S. alone ….and all ET’s are here to help us and or don’t pose any threat !
    just doesn’t make any sense, nature doesn’t work that way, a superior species always
    capitalized on resources and lower species just look at the human race, as much as I respect Dr Steven Greer his opinion in this regard throws up a major warning flag to me. I just can’t work it out to any satisfactory conclusion.

    1. Right in the post it says “at least some of them, visiting us are malevolent towards mankind”. If you go to Detroit, sure you put yourself at risk of your car getting broken into, etc. However, not all people in Detroit are going to break into your car. The malevolent incidents are easier to track. The benevolent incidents may be being held back as they pose a threat to the people in charge of our energy here on schoolhouse earth.

  11. LOL…well, OK I have done my fair share of Greer bashing in my time, but this is craaaap. I am great with faces–if I say so myself. I am absolutely useless remembering names but am real good in remembering faces, and even if disguised with make-up and lots older etc I can re-cognize. So I can *ASSURE *you that that AINT Greer lol

  12. Jack

    Does anyone take this extremely creepy man (Greer) seriously, other than UFO “noobs”? Anyone who has spent any real length of time following the subject knows he has alterior motives and frankly the guy makes my skin crawl.

  13. Jack

    You people are grossly over-anylizing this, and there is frankly no knowledge or evidence in existence here on Earth to allow us to come to any conclusion other than this–just because a race is technologically more advanced than ourselves does not mean they are tree hugging angelic-like beings who would come here for the sole purpose of “helping” us to reach our potential. We have no clue what they would be like. Yes I’m sure there are friendly extraterrestrials out there in the cosmos, but you can bet your sweet asses there are some highly advanced NOT-so-friendly ones as well. For us to ASSUME that they’re all hugs and kisses and ignorantly invite them to come visit us and advertise our existence is beyond naive and terribly foolish. You’re all just so eager to have confirmation of their existence that you completely toss logic and wisdom out the window. Yes, they MIGHT be friendly…but what if they’re not? Then we’re screwed.

  14. I am not attracted to paranoid views of nature and cosmos. I believe these worldviews arrive with the patriarchy and its solar cults, solar paganism, and monotheism. Prior to this was lunar mythos where Earth/nature and cosmos are not psychologically divided. You can see this development in mythologies, where not only do dynamic wholes become divided like earth and cosmos, but also light and dark, good and bad, visible and invisible, nature and spirit, male and female, life and death and so on. So, in other words, to really look deep into where humans are at you have to look at the stories we have been told and the stories we tell ourselves after they become internalized. If the stories/myths are benign, then your sensual feeling of being is going to be far different than if they are toxic.
    So let me overview—with Zoroastrianism came the myth of the universe utterly divided between ‘good’ and ‘evil’. This influences various mythologies including Judeo-Christianity, and comes the myth that we are fallen due to disobedience to the God (actually that ‘creation myth is against the Goddess and ecstatic participation with nature and cosmos inspired with the psychedelic fruit of the Tree of Life). Christianity carries this paranoia onward as you are born in original sin, and nature is ruled over by their creation the ‘devil’. I want you to stop reading for a moment and just think how insidious such paranoia would be, and how it would affect your sense of yourself in relation with the natural world. TOXIC!
    In the so-called mystery schools such as Gnosticism comes the myth that nature has been created by an evil god–the Demiurge–and we are trapped in a body and ruled over by the ‘archons’–who guard the planets, and to be an initiated in the mysteries you would –amongst other things–have to know the names of these archons so you can eventually escape this trap earth, and local cosmos, and return home to your spiritual pleroma. John Lamb Lash who claims to paint Gnosticism in more benevolent terms still spreads this paranoia of the archons and even equates them with the modern understanding of the ‘Greys’ aliens. So, in other words is continuuing the paranoia.

    Greer is confusing because he has said that the Greys are biological entities created by secret black ops. This does not make any sense. People have had experience of these being in DMT experiences, and these beings have also shown to be deeply concerned with ‘our’ insane ecocide. So I am on THEIR side!

    To wrap this up, I do not in any way blame aliens for the dirty doings of certain groups of humans who have lost their soul and seek to destroy their own nest (and ours and ALL species), This dynamic they are caught up in is adequately explained by radical feminists, and we do not need David Ickian dodgy explanations for it. In fact HIS theories are very patriarchal themselves!

    So please, stop being paranoid. What we *really* need is to understand deeply respect and love for the Earth, and IF we hear multidimensional beings feeling the same way, well we know that they and we are on a same wavelength. The only alternative is more and more self-destructive war weaponry–space war–which would be utterly absurd against beings who are vastly more cosmos experienced. Drop the war thang. It is UTTER abysmal ignore-ance.

      1. Did someone hold a gun to your head to read it? if you DIDN’T read it how dya know it is ” pseudo-intellectual diatribe”, and if you did and do please explain why it is. Thank you.

  15. If one does some research on all ET civilizations that have been and are here you can see that Dr G and S.H are both right! As the story goes we are at the end of a malevolent ET influence that has been part of our history for 13 millennia. For some time now in our life time there has been a joining with benevolent ETs. 
    Love and Light to All.

    1. Jack

      LOL…research on ET civilizations? HEY GENIUS….THEIR EXISTENCE HASN’T EVEN BEEN CONFIRMED YET. So how the hell are you going to “reasearch” an ET civilization? There is a reason no credible scientist “studies” ET civilizations–there’s nothing to study. YouTube videos of lights in the skies, or people telling stories is FAR from confirmation or proof. I know you don’t like to hear that, but it’s a cold hard fact. Stories and videoes of lights in the sky don’t prove a damn thing. All you know is what you’ve read or heard on YouTube. So stop embarrassing yourself.

      1. Rye

        I reckon research is not the ‘same’ everywhere. If scientists (in general) existed within their capacity to perceive ET’s, their observation of and interaction with them would be a kind of research. Science seems dogmatic to me often in that if you cannot prove it physically, it does not exist. Scientists often are unable to perceive the nonphysical because their beliefs so rigidly adhere only to that which they can prove, thus limiting what they can actually experience through their perceptions.

  16. Metaluss

    This is all speculational and we should all remember power corrupts. I doubt their middle class is observing us if indeed aliens are observing us. Technology doesn’t automatically make you nice.

    1. Jack

      You’re just as full of shit as Greer…the source you’re citing doesn’t know any more than the rest of us. It’s all purely speculation and entertaining stories. No proof. No compelling evidence. And even if we DID have proof that they are visiting us here on Earth, we would still know nothing of their intentions. Anyone claiming to have direct contact with ET’s is either insane or a liar, as any intelligent person knows.

      1. Hi Jack,

        You just called me insane or a liar, but that’s okay; I don’t take offense…

        I’m just curious, though, why is it so hard to accept that people can be in contact with ETs?

        Thank you,

  17. Don Anderson

    I don’t base my perception of possible motives of extra-Ts on frightful or hopeful ideas about political or philosophical motives but simple observations of all life I’ve ever known. I watch: a blade of grass grow, a goldfish move around a bowl, a mouse, dog or my neighbor Ed get into his car and all I see is life forms moving toward self interest. This self interest isn’t necessarily good or bad but it is self interest. We move about to further become what we are or to make things the way we think they should be. I don’t think any life form is different in this respect. Extra-Ts probably don’t want to eat us or take all the water home but whatever they do, it is to further become who they are or to the make things the way they think things should be. The question is, do we want the world to become what omnipotent: mice, seagulls, Italians or Mexicans wit unlimited power want it to be? The problem is about power. When Spaniards visited central America, they didn’t arrive with the idea of doing anything evil or destructive but to make everything the way it should be. The historic tragedy is about balance of power. Any life form with the power Extra-Ts are reputed to have would cause changes most of us don’t want. I’m sure this is what Steven Hawking is concerned about. He knows that it is his unique power to contribute to science is the only reason he isn’t living among us in a completely vulnerable and dependent state.

    1. Hi Don!

      I agree on the most part, but more importantly, I think your perspective on this issue is very fresh and thought provoking. The same subject can be addressed by people with similar or same intentions and beliefs, but from different angles, and the understanding of the problem will be richer. A pedestal in the middle of a park is always a pedestal, but if you walk around it, it looks different when we watch it from different angles and/or with different pairs of eyes. Very nice! Thank you!

      1. Steven G.

        I agree to most ppl here concerning the potential steer by ET that we may not like, just like a child told to go to bed, by parents with far more matured mentality. We may struggle to learn from ET, but at the end of the day, I strongly believe it is for the universal betterment just because they are many many years ahead of us, and still have let us have the freedom to live the way we wanted even though it is not perfect, hey maybe they are a liberal parent?

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  19. Yeah??? Not that I believe most of this shit, however presuming some of this to have basis in fact,what about cattle , horse and even human mutilization?

    Ask Linda Howe , about all these seemingly fuzzy little fucks who are spreading there love and hope via these tender expressions of affection!

  20. Ejay

    I see there seems to be much controversy and opinions here. I have been following Steven Greer for some time now, as well as some of his witnesses testimonies . In my honest opinion, I find most of the witnesses to be credible individuals. For my own personal reasons, I am attempting to locate witnesses that seem to match certain personal experiances which I experienced . I have numerous unsolved questions about some events which happened. You see, while serving in The United States Air Force, I had the honor and privilege of getting to know Betty Hill ( also tagged or known to be the Grandmother of UFO ology … as some put it.. ) I can assure you this was one incredible individual, and I am honored to have spent a small portion of my life with her while serving in the Strategic Air Command. I was a rather young individual at that time, and how my superiors ever selected me to meet her, I’ll never know…. I suppose I was always an open-minded individual, and I did make it clear that I believed in Life Beyond Earth, back when I entered the Air Force. By the way, I was raised (Christian -Evangelical United Brethren turned Methodist in Central Penna. ) Betty Hill was a fascinating individual, and some of my fellow Airmen felt the same. We were unable to speak with her husband Barney, but from what I have read about him, he was quite a distinguished and outstanding individual as well. I can’t encourage all of you here enough to simply do your own research, for the answers are truly close to you, and available. I have over 30 years of research on Aliens/ etc. It makes me laugh sometimes when I see how people squabble over whether Aliens are good, bad, or are going to take over Earth/ Mankind? People , stop and think about it, take a good look in the mirror…. look at our own Nations on Earth . We have those people in this Planet whom desire to help others, and we have those whom want to trample over anyone they can…….. Now…. using common Sense…. don’t you think you would find identical parallels in Alien Life //// Culture//// Etc. ??? Well, I encourage all, to do their own personal research and good luck….. by the way ….. no Life won/t end in December of 2012. Good Luck All…. EJAY………………..EJAY………………….EJAY………..EJAY………….EJAY………..EJAY………….EJAY…….

  21. Chris

    As much as i know nobody knows s*** about this subject. Everyone is peddling his own version, while there are some others who laugh at them. In such a scenario i fully endorse what the US govt. is doing: keeping it under wraps until there’s more light on the subject. It is much better than fools rioting on the streets over issues that cannot be proven decisively.

  22. Just found this guy Goldbug and he is in the process of “uncovering” a group of actors out of Pima County and guess who he found? Yup, our good doctor Steven Greer.

    Crazy world or an inconceivable amount of deception”?

    1. incognitocontrol

      I have a hunch that you or Goldbug are disinfo agents. :) You may even be the same person. But anywho that should be thrown out there. You were the first to reply and it was with a crap video. Anyone who doesn’t notice the eye was photoshopped is blind. Keep your eyes on the iris. Why spread these things?.. O.o I’m not sure if any of your words should be taken credibly. Now forgive me for this but your writing is “too” professional. It’s like you’re writing a script. No one conversationally writes like that. :/ You’re sketchy dude.

      1. incognitocontrol

        lol. Alright. Now I’m embarrassed. Yours wasn’t the first comment. I do apologize for that. T_T But you’re still sketchy..

      2. Yup that’s me, disinfo agent number nine. I’m so good at it, I don’t even know I’m an agent.

        Anyone who didn’t notice that your first comment on this entire website was in response to a Goldbug video, should take notice to that. Just thought that little fun fact should be thrown out there also. Gonna havta get up a little earlier to play the disinfo game with me dude.

        Wouldn’t be the first time I was labeled agent, just ask Wes.

      1. Looks nothing like him huh? Perhaps at your last drum circle they “told” you it was poppy seeds on that bread baked in the earthen kiln, but you were never the same since.

        It is painfully obvious that they look alike.

        No worries though mate, cuz I’m not here to put the kibosh on Wes’s theories of alien life, just to help others see that there are those out there who wish to steer you in the wrong direction.

        1. So you think that Steven Greer is steering people in the wrong direction? Side by side with many high profile witnesses? Along with people who have been in charge of our nuclear weapons? That has nothing to do with poppy seeds brother.

          I have never been the same since having 6 hours missing time and physical witnesses of 3 disk shaped silver craft leaving a scene that I was involved in *with* a friend who experienced time loss as well. The witnesses were random people exiting a rather large chain store. Random group delusion? You could blame my perception on the fact that I’m a hippie, but you can’t say that random strangers share the same perception as I do.

          Despite having experiences that started with this incident 18 years ago, I do believe that the majority of life out there is benevolent, including Steven Greer, lol.

          Anyways, there are obvious differences between the two images. I do have a theory on why some people react to him adversely, but would not share these thoughts with people who aren’t open minded. It is clear that you’d rather bash someone and call them a hippie freak than listen with an open ear and an open heart.

          1. You know, here’s the scary part, Dr. Greer alongside people who have been in charge of our nuclear weapons. That scenario would scare the hemp right outa any critical thinking talking monkey!

            But, business first

            I’m gonna cool your jets right here sister. When I DO get around to calling you a “hippie freak”, you will be too busy pulling your Berkinstocks out of your mouth and researching rather than wasting your energies on being over sensitive.

            You ARE a part of random strangers witnessing “life” before you every day. Random Group Delusion? Let’s try Consistent Mass Deception. Didn’t you see all of those Crisis-actors who were hired to pull of the Sandy Hook illusion? Now that was one big random god damn group of people who fell for that shit! Aurora Colorado before that, and to be honest, I could keep going back until I landed at the lie of the creation of the english language, there had to be multiple witnesses for that to dontcha think? There is no end to it, ya see?

            Can you even believe your own eyes? Take a second to let this video sink in:

            That “man” had a job, “he” worked for the law, “he” was trained to handle conflict, (not spellcasting) “he” carries a GUN for crying out loud! (Feel safer?) Yet, he forgot to write the citation? Now, while considering all of this, ask yourself, have you ever heard the saying; “The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it.” Guess what? The man who was coined for saying that, was none other than an actor in one of the biggest “games” in memory. Josef Goebbels. Yeah, that guy. Just playin’ a part then moving on. Oh yeah! I gotta open mind all right, that’s not the issue here. Fingering “Dr. Greer” for the bullshit artist he is, is more like it.

            Anyways, other than repeating that “you think” there are obvious differences between the two images (without stating what they were BOTH times) IAm led to believe that you ma’am, are full of shit. No worries though mate, as I stated the first go around, IAm not here to argue the presence of E.T.’s, the validity of “high profile witnesses”. Nor am I here to watch you play the victim. (hmm, who else does that?) You jewish?

            Truth is, the majority of life here on this planet is NOT benevolent, so what leads you to believe it’s any different out there? Just cuz you want it to be that way? No, it’s deeper than that. Maybe we’ll chat about that at a later time, back to life on earth, and I’m talkin’ all LIFE here sister (excluding us talking monkeys of course). The majority of life here is just Natural, and will put you in its belly if it deems necessary. Survival……it’s what’s for dinner.

            I love g.o.r.p. by the way

            1. Surely you’re aware of CSETI and the Disclosure Project. This critical thinking/talking monkey is staying on topics and is not scared of ETs getting involved with our nuclear defense. My reasons for not being fearful of this intervention will not be shared here as this reply will be purely objective, without what you would consider as me playing “victim”.

              Dr. Steven Greer has spent immense amounts of time and energy in devoting his life to The Disclosure Project. Furthermore I reiterate that he has worked with people in charge of the US National Defense, that of which one would like consider highly reputable. Enough said.

              This is just an inth of the list of eye witness testimony that Steven Greer has instigated, many of who were involved with our National Defense:

              Two Hour Witness DVD

              John Callahan – Sr. FAA Official
              Michael Smith – Aircraft Control / Early Warning Operation

              Col. Ross Dedrickson – United States Air Force – Atomic Energy Commission
              –Military Liason for quality assurance of nuclear weapons
              –Unified Pacific Command under Admiral Felt during the 60’s.
              —-^Officer in charge of the alternate command post involved in nuclear weapon operation planning.

              Col. Dwynne Arneson – United States Air Force SAC Control Officer – Top Secret control officer at Malmstrom Air Force Base
              –Dispatch Nuclear Missile Authenticator

              Captain Robert Salas-United States Air Force SAC Launch Officer/Engineer
              –Malmstrom Air Force Base confirmation

              Daniel Salter – US Air Force, Cheif Master Sergeant – NRO

              Harry Allen Jordan – Navy Radar Operator USS Roosevelt 1962

              Major George A. Filer – Deputy Director of Intelligence
              Prof. Robert Jacobs – USAF – Vanderberg Air Force Base (ICBM testing)

              Merle Shane McDow – US Navy Top Secret SCI Clearance, Zebra Badge
              –Atlantic Command Facility

              Donna Hare – Nasa Employee – Houseton Johnson Space Center

              John Maynard – Military Intelligence Analyst Ret. – Defence Intelligence Agency

              Sergeant Karl Wolfe – Langley Air Force Base (Photographic Technician – worked with NSA, Airman Second Class)
              –Base on moon, clusters of towers & large structures 1/2 mile in size, some with reflective surfaces

              Larry Warren – USAF SEcurity Specialist – Bentwaters England 1980

              Bodies, crash/landed, technologies retrieved – technologies withheld

              Col. Dwynne Arneson – United States Air Force – SAC Control Officer
              Brigadier General Atephen Lovekin – National Guard, JAG – Eisenhower White House
              Lance Corporal John Weygandt – US Marine Corps
              –1997 UFO Crash retrieval in Peru
              Major George A. Filer

              Harland Bentley – Missile Radar Operator – US Army, NASA DOE Contractor
              –Transmission from Apollo capsule – Request for permission of avoidance of craft

              Brigadier General Stephen Lovekin – National Guard, JAG – Eisenhower White House
              Dr. Richard Haines – Aerospace Researcher – NASA, Retired
              Franklin Carter – US Navy – Radar Specialist
              Harry Allen Jordan – US Navy Radar Operator – USS Roosevelt
              Enrique Kolbeck – Senior Air Traffic Controler – Mexico CIty Int. Airport
              Chuck Sorrels – Air Traffic Controller – Edwards Air Force Base
              Daniel Salter – US Air Force, Chief Master Sergeant – NRO
              Fredrick Fox – US Navy Pilot – Top Secret Nuclear Clearance

              Lance Corporal John Weygandt – US Marine Corps
              Sergeant Karl Wolfe – Langley Air Force Base, VA Tactical Air Command
              Larry Warren – United States Air Force – Security Specialist
              Gordon Creighton – Military Intelligence – Ministry of Defense
              Sergeant Clifford Stone – US Army – Extraterrestrial Retrieval Team

              2010 National Press Club Event

              I’m not clear on Steven Greer’s Involvement with the 2010 National Press Club Event, if any. However, Robert Salas is involved with this one as well.

              Robert Salas – Former USAF Nuclear Missile Launch Officer
              Dwynne Arneson – USAF LT. Co. Ret. Communications Officer-in-charge
              Robert Jamison – Former USAF Nuclear Missile Targeting Officer
              Charles I. Halt – USAF Col. Ret. Former Deputy Base Commander
              Jerome Nelson – Former USAF Nuclear Missile Launch Officer
              Patrick McDonough – Former USAF Nuclear Missile Site Geodetic Surveyor
              Bruce Fenstermacher – Former USAF Nuclear Missile Launch Officer

            2. You do understand that the majority of the names you provided are straight from the military industrial complex and a few FAA officials, and are not permitted to talk publicly unless given the green light? Besides, the sightings they are reporting are more than likely their own technology. Hell, Seargent Clifford Stone at 3:42 into the lovely video you provided said, “We saw living dead bodies of entities not born on this planet.” What in the sam hell does that even mean? Living dead bodies? Sounds like he doesn’t even know what the hell he is talking about, and I’m to believe you can discern if two people resemble each other?

              Like I said from the begining, IAm not debating the existence of E.T.’s! IAm questioning the validity of Greer’s message. Sheesh, and even more so now that you provided this wellspring of “informants”. Ha, do you honestly think that these people would be willing to jeopardize their military retirement, their means of survival that they worked so long and hard for? Not everybody is willing to survive off of granola and M&M’s while recycling their neighbors trash into shelter from the elements.

              Brigadier General Atephen Lovekin, you think all those many years that man worked to get that one star are gonna be pissed away telling you one REAL secret? If he was your typical retiring one star general with a minimum of 38 yrs of service. He was pulling in at least 10,737 dollars a month. He will continue to get paid a high percentage of his base pay after he retires, IF, he remains a good boy and sticks to the script. You gotta look out for #1, even Bohemians are aware of that!

              Disclosure “project” and CSETI are filters. nothing else. You get to hear what they want you to hear, it’s that simple. They are not liasons for off world negotiations, can you imagine, talking monkey logic in space? Have fun in the 3rd density, for it is where you are destined to play out your nonconformist role.

              nuff’ said

  23. There is no such thing as an “alien.” There’s only the Game: Rock, Scissors & Paper.

    We get EATEN because we are “Paper” who have not set out metes and boundaries of Galactic Law to cover our Planet. So, we get smashed and cut up–eaten.

    Let us wake up to Diversity and its characteristics, and then we can begin to deal the cards and games called Reality, no longer merely victims of Predators and Parasites.

    ~Ereshkigal, daughter of Naanaar, Son of YHVH

  24. TORTOISE (Hinduism) and DRAGON (Taoism) are symbols for ENERGY or WAVE, both are analog with MAGEN DAVID (Judaism). “Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs” is the metaphor, also Thawaf seven times circling around the Ka’ba and Sa’i oscillating along “the sinus” Marwah-Shafa during rituals of the Hajj (Abraham).
    “A BRIEF HISTORY OF TIME – From the Big Bang to Black Hole” by Stephen W. Hawking is the best scientific interpretation of AL QUR’AN by a non believer. It is also a “genuine bridge stone” for comprehensive study of Theology. Surprise, this paradox is a miracle and blessing in disguise as well. So, it should be very wise and challenging for Moslem scholars to verify my discovery.
    NeoSUFI visionary strategic thinking.

  25. Hi!

    We, here on Earth, human beings, … mmmmm! as “civilized” (cof! cof!) beings :-p, have rules. By the way too many rules. A lot of “you can’t” and very few “you can”. If we put aside, for a moment, most of these rules come from our beloved phycopaths and genocides rulers, Is not probable “they” (ET’s –the good and the bad–) must have also many (less or more) rules? Can you imagine all those races with “their” hi-tech level and our level of aggressiveness and territoriality? Well! Then, it would not be necessary to wait for certain dates of calendar to look upwards and enjoy nice fireworks?!! :-) Anytime, any moment. The problem would be “things” dropping.

    Some of their rules could be “We (ET’s) can’t disturb intelligent ants (us)” or “We (ET’s) can disturb ants (us) just a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiittle bit but not the whole nest”. :-D

    Concerning our level of “aggressiveness and territoriality” … … this just a result of what several millennium of human being control through religions. So, it is possible our worst side in most human beings has ‘flourished’. For those of you who have read Report for Iron Mountain excerpt, in the 60’s was considered by sewer elite the possibility of Peace. An worldwide economy based on Peace!! Could have been nice!!

    I personally have no interest to contact or be contacted by nothing beyond this planet. Enough problems have I with earthlings! I do not want to add an exotic factor. For over 30 years I’ve been reading about people abducted, kidnapped and even when nicely contacted these people’s life went ruined. The Good ET’s … Where are they? Alex Collier Andromedans? I do not think so. I’m not suggesting their purposes are “bad” (as far as I know) Just it seems we have some thing they need. Interest or bartering. Bartering is ok!

    And then, … there are “the others”; the ED’s. These are really the Stars of scenario. Not more or less nasty than those ET’s who need spaceships to move around, kidnap humans, visiting us heartily, etc. ;-); just different; more slippery. You can not see those last; at least not with our poor and limited eyes; you only can feel them … suppooooosing when you’re feeling some thing odd, weird and/or unpleasant, heartbeats suddenly and without any reason accelerates you may have an idea of what’s going on. It has taking me more than half life to realize it and discover them. They like us dreaming. Violent ones; war, battles, so on and so forth. Like to approach us when we are in meditation (these ones seem to be different ones) or lightsleep or sleeping (disturbing). And at the same time they are so good hiding their existence! So good! Have you seen Mothman movie? When Alexander Leek explains John Klein the fact “they’-2-‘ (being ‘-1-‘ the guys of the spacecrafts)” can see further or far away than us, don’t make them better.

    By the way, How are you dealing with my broken English? ;-) Headache?

    I do not how to deal with ET’s but I know how to stop bothering me ED’s. As simple as in meditation to strictly forbid them (and addressing clearly to them) to disturb, interfere, bother me never again under any circumstance. I sleep like a baby, since then. No nasty dreams. Good rest. Psychological? Who cares!!! It functioned!!! Some people also say homeopathy is psychological. Who cares if it functions!!!!!


  26. Majestic Clearance

    I think the debate whether aliens have good intensions or not is over. They are already here and they have been here for a long ass time.

    And as long as they have been here, there is little evidence to support that they would put us in cages like we do animals. There is little evidence they would enslave us and wipe out a good number of the population.

    What if all we had are books that has recorded facts/events on what has already came to pass for thousands of years on earth? I doubt you would find any Grey put Jews in Concentration camps or kill thousands of native americans or threaten to kill humans because they didn’t accept another religeon/belief.

    But even if the aliens did wipe us out tomorrow, it wouldn’t be entirely unjust considering the destruction we are capable of against other humans not to mention other species. Thank gawd they are not as judgemental as we are.

    1. Aliens are just like us – there are good people and bad people within each race. The difference is in imperatives as a species. We are, from what I have found, one of the few races who may call themselves “intelligent”, who doesn’t have imperatives. We are scattered in all directions from have been manipulated for so long by – yes, aliens. See, they are not always physical or third dimensional. I know that Greer, Rosin, Richard Boylan and a few others are willing to embrace any alien race out there, as it seems, believing they are all on “our page” and benevolent. That to me is very naive and dangerous. Most aliens have common imperatives as a species, even if not all of them agree with their own imperatives, but these imperatives sometimes clash with what you and I would consider being the best for OUR species. Some races out there are quite manipulative. We have to be careful not to follow people because they put PhD after their names. Doesn’t mean they are automatically correct. When comes to the above named people, I would think twice before I swallow everything they say…With that said, there are also many races out there that are willing to assist us with a service-to-others attitude, mostly by not interfering directly and/or assisting in a help to self help fashion when called for.

    2. Sofia Ithothe

      Humans have committed the genocides and mass land evictions against other earthlings after the example of their creators, the anunnaki: ‘let us create a man in our own image’, a decision that was to signal the end of the well-being of the original earth-dwellers.

  27. Hesperos

    Dr. Greer’s trust in alien benevolence is comforting, even if it were to turn out to be unfounded. There are so many suspicious people in the world that it’s reassuring to find one whose ignorance merely reinforces his naivety .

  28. Michael

    It’s humans that are a big concern in the universe that are adult humans of those that are in power and most of our services in certain uniforms just from that alien saving me from having a wee outside that saw that I would have got into trouble just for that or more proofs it that human adutls are a big concern that just get you into trouble for having a wee outside and beat and kick you in for normal and legal things since your childhood days. That’s where you need to sort out your problems from doing that to us before you move on into peace and understanding aliens cause it’s some adults that do that to us just for that that could destroy us all going down that path.

  29. Michael


    I’d like to say this that there are friednly aliens one of them saved me from having a wee outside cause I would have got into trouble for that or more with humans just for having a wee outside cause that male alien white with his face sort of like a round piece round his face had seen my childhood days and also my future by the looks of it. I felt this electrical shock in my Body that pulled me away from having a wee outside and it made me pull towards him without his hands and he had darkness around him. Then the electrical shock made me go the other way I never got the chance to have a wee I know why now cause I would have been in trouble for it cause humans in my local area would have seen it as something else should I have had a wee outside. That alien has seen my childhood days cause things like that of getting into trouble by adults when I wsa a kid for no reason and beaten and kicked in by adults and thrown on to flower beds by adults for no reason when I was age 9 of year 86 since that alien pulled me away by an electrical shock in my body from having a wee outside I now think twice about having a wee outside and other normal and legal things outside. I do trust Aliens cause of that alien saved me from getting me into trouble just for having a wee. I believe there also myschevious aliens too that like to pop into my life called the Grays that play around with me by twisting bone on right side of my neck of Feb 2011 lately. Then made me smell awful smells from them on Tuesday of Jan 2011 before they did that in my neck. And before that made candle blowing flame at back of my neck from left to right and left again whilst I in Bed wide awake before that candle blowing flame I felt a pinch on my left side of the neck of Jan 2011. They’ve sent me visions of my in space which I felt a peace with of October 2010. I believe this is also a good thing too from them when they sent me that vision of me in space I’m always left unharmed by them just from that that makes me believe their good aliens the grays and that one that pulled me away from having a wee outside by an electrical shock to save me from getting into trouble and more wth humans that alien has officially kept a good close eye on me since my childhood days and of my future. Just from that their good aliens well those types I’ve encountered in my Bedroom and when about to have a wee outside are.

  30. raven801

    I’mstudding the alien agenda quite for a while now.
    I have found many “horrible” experiences of many abductees. This can’t be, and definitely are NOT a hoax, or false stories. Perhaps there are benevolent aliens, I believe it, but there are a few, who are predominant on this planet, that are definitely NOT benevolent, reptilians and other, who are serving their agenda, like different kinds of greys, etc. And abductees, at least 90% of them have experience with either greys or reptilians, or both of them together.
    Just today one friend have, disclosed some of his experiences and of his whole family. It was pretty shocking. They have had real traumas, horrible experiences some years ago, before they moved to UK from another country. My friend is writing the book about his experiences and for now does not want to speak about it, thinking that he will be considered madman, because those experiences are so far out and simply mind blowing. He told me just a few details about it. He and his family were all seriously considering suicide, since there was no other solution for their problem with intrusion of aliens.
    So there are many such experiences all over the world. Perhaps read abut work of James Bartley, Barbara Bartholich, and Karla Turner. Of course, it may appear to you that they are too negative about all thing, but this is their experience and that of hundreds of others abductees.

    1. Erick

      I’ve heard the same thing. I do question who or what the abductors are. I listened to Dr Greer talk about how the gov’t has a type of clone/creation operation producing ET/reptilian like creatures and believes that they are behind a lot of the negative abductions. I hope I paraphrased him right.

  31. IAmLonefrog

    Just had to put this out there………

    A quote that came along with the video…..


  32. tim hedges

    i tried to get in touch with mr Greer
    but his secretary Anna said he was far too busy to connect with anyone or the likes of me
    i would have more chance of contacting him if i was an extra terrestrial if my name was Obama or meditation thats it who needs to do anything else but meditate
    and make contact the way the E.T S DO
    what happened to that theory Steve talked about us all being connected as one and that we were all important
    i had proposed a summit forum seminar here in Thailand and was ready to raise the cash for it to promote the orion project but was snubbed by his secretary whose if you ask me is a block to his connections and not a gate way
    I OFTEN Wondered
    how does an idea ever get so big with such small minded people behind the wheel of a vehicle so large in these break through times of supposedly great communication and understanding
    i might as well be making smoke signals in the jungle

    1. icicicles

      It saddens me that you feel it needs to be about you.
      What does it matter whether Dr, Greer has time for you or not?
      Instead of trying to discredit him, you should pool your resources and create your own organisation of contact.
      Let go of the negative energy that binds you from enlightenment and ascend to a higher level of consciousness.

      1. fred

        O.K, first off how is Mr. Hedges trying to “discredit” Dr. Greer? Its sounds likes hes just talking about a disheartening event that rocked the way he felt about the renowned Dr. Greer. And please don’t push enlightenment on others, even you should know it has to be sought after, not pushed upon one.

  33. MAC

    When we see kids playing around with something dangerous of which they have no knowledge too and its potential of harm, We take the item away from them, keep a watch on them and let them play on.

    In the whole vastness of this UNIVERSE we are nothing but a tiny microscopic spec of dust . As one can’ when studies the picture, then can logically come to the term that that we could be the one out of trillions and trillions of other living civilizations which could in fact be many generations beyond us.
    And if they did needed to travel all these light years to earth and take over our planet or harm us,Then I think they would have done that along long time ago without any problems what so ever.

    We here on earth are also trying to protect some wild species from being extinct, But not by harming them .

    Theres a box , Then theres another box outside it and then another outside that one and so on and on .We humans are inside the first box and can’t see outside this one yet .

  34. Trent

    If you gain so much intelligence to travel to this world and remain unseen to most, you have great power. The quesiton is if they were so violent, why would they show peace by disarming missiles? When we shot down a UFO, why didn’t they strike back? They are simply guiding us into peace with ourselves which has to be learned by the self and not taught by another. Maybe shown by others, but not completely taught. We havn’t quite gotten there yet though and thats most of us are still unsure if they really are out there. The more we show peace, the more of us will know of them. If these are really trans-dimensional creatures, which i believe they are, that would explain guardian angels, ghosts, and many other if not all mysteries and phenomenons. The reason ghost seem scary sometimes is because they may be replecating our violence in order to show how bad that can become. Once you start following and believing Steven Greer you feel at peace with yourself. Or you can believe the sceptics and constantly try to fight that they are violent while not being at peace with yourself. Its very similar to the choice between heaven and hell which both simply came from metaphors of peace of violents in our own worlds. The choice is YOURS!

    1. Trent,

      I agree with almost everything you say. However, it’s with aliens (inter-dimensional or not) as with humans–each individual is both good and bad, in our terms. It’s not correct, like we sometimes have the tendency to do, to categorize one alien race as “evil/bad” and another one as “good”. There is both in each species.

      Still, each alien culture has their imperatives, which is most possibly agreed upon by the majority of that civilization, and the question is, does the imperatives of a certain race benefit us, or not? They are all different and have different group mind-sets, depending on their evolvement.

      The more I get involved in this, the more I tend to lean towards staying out of it all together. We have the capacity, as a human race, to evolve by ourselves. We are not in the position yet, I think, to get involved with Galactic Federations and such. It’s not in our best interest at this point. In the future? Who knows, we’ll see…

      1. Joe


        What Greer seems to believe, (as I do) is that the big mistake we humans make is to assume that “they” would have to be similar to us. Why/how assume that they have both good and bad in them, like we do. If they are thousands or even millions of years more advanced than us, then what makes you think that they have not totally eliminated all negative tendencies from every aspect of their being over time, through evolution.
        Some say they would have to do that to reach a point in their advancements prior to self destruction.
        Scientists and even ufologists make the same mistake in pondering: “How could they possibly get here from there??” Simple… through technology we have little or no concept of, rather than advanced rockets or nuclear propultion, as some well know ufologists suggest.

      1. IAmLonefrog

        To incarnate in the physical realm is the only opportunity of completing the journey back to the source. Golden opportunity if you will, according to eastern teachings.

        Another aspect of incarnation arises when the equation needs to be balanced and those willing to do so will “come back” and assist in that process.

        I feel like we are repeating ourselves here, or perhaps it is yet another point of view “at” ourselves from a different vantage point on this great spiral of life.

        Generally, the spiral represents a broadening of consciousness, which is the destination arrived after a long journey. http://www.zenzibar.com/cosmicspiral/cosmicspiral.htm

          1. IAmLonefrog


            I could continue to guess at your approach to this whole fiasco we call “continuence of being” or what the Latin verbiage calls incarnare, but I prefer to get straight to the point and find out what it is you actually know. So please, without further delay….what is the difference?

            1. Okay..okay

              The only difference between those that incarnate on this planet and the ones that “visit” is the way they incarnate.

              Everyone that “visits” here has one incarnation after another. They live very long life spans…some thousands of years. They remember each incarnation they have. Their memories go back millions of years. That’s why they are so much more advanced than “Earthers” are.

              “Earthers” on the other hand have ALL of their incarnation at the same exact time and while they are “experiencing” each one…they have no memory of the other “experiences” they are having. (Most of the time)

              Your “Higher Self” knows and remembers each one though.

              See…that’s the thing. That’s why all of the other races that “visit” this planet have an agenda. It is taking so long for their incarnations “experiences” to add up to enough overall “experience” to graduate from here. They are basically jealous of those “Higher Selves” that chose to speed up their “experience” rate by incarnating on this planet. In the time it takes them to experience one single lifetime, “Earthers” would have experienced hundreds, if not thousands.

              This “Game” will end soon and the “Earthers” will have graduated and moved on from here, while the others are left behind for another round.

            2. IAmLonefrog

              Let’s not split hairs here Larnhr, a golden opportunity and being jealous of “higher selves” seem pretty similar no matter how you break it down or split it up. Which brings my next question to the forefront. Why is that you choose to represent yourself, here in the eather, with a fractured image?

            3. Sorry, it would not let me reply directly to your last post.

              There is a difference. “Earthers” are the ones with the “golden opportunity” here not the ones “visiting”…therefore they are jealous that they lacked the courage to take the same step that we did.

              As for my choice in avatars….well I’m not whole here. Just a small piece of oneself is in each “incarnation” here.

  35. Molebatsi

    Advance technologies possessed by variant alien races doesn’t essentially mean they are all positive!Human are able to harness nuclear energy,that doesn’t mean all humans harnessing nuclear energy are benevolent!I have proof of an alien race that has been here on Earth which is very advanced & it uses its psychic or astral energy to do all sorts of things.It is a very NEGATIVE race!Higher does not necessarily mean better & assuming that it always does,it would be a grave mistake!Like us humans,some Alien races are positive,enlightened & respect life,others are the obverse of the above!It is in perfecting the art of tuning in,using higher energy centers &/or superconscious centers of energy above the head,that we can know for sure what we are dealing with!Warm Regards. . .Molebatsi(South Africa).

  36. AAD

    Perhaps our visitors are also our protectors from potential hostile threats? It would make sense that they “control” our galactic neighborhood since they come and go as they please.

  37. SmithWill

    It seems like you’re a bit effected by Star Trek. The notion that malevolent Romulens or Klingons are roaming space is a bit much. It seems that only an ego-driven war machine, which is only transcended by enlightenment, is what earthly and other under-developed worlds share in common.

  38. Josephus Hap

    The friendly Aliens that I met when I was three years old and asked: “How does that “thing” work?”, just pointed at the big spheres of the hovering machine.
    When I was 47 years old, I remembered it when Wayne Greene, Publisher of “73”, a Ham Radio Magazine, asked the question too.
    Two minutes later I had figured it out and after I got the Patent (4,095,162) I suggested to the Engineers at the Cleveland, Ohio, Nasa Propulsion Lab to use the technology.
    A Shuttle, using it could fly with a constant 1G acceleration/ braking to the Moon in a few hours.
    They were “Not interested”
    After the Space Disasters they decided to experiment with the technology, did not contact me like I had urged and caused another disaster. The Big Black-out in 2004.

    So I met Aliens that wanted to help. I found over 1000 spin-offs that would mean a Industrial Revolution like the world never has seen before.
    Canada was not interested.
    Thanks to Nasa the USA is not interested.
    Maybe Russia or India?

    1. IAmLonefrog

      I’m interested,

      Send me the specs, let’s get this wagon train a rollin’!

      The idea is to get the “elites” on their toes, or heels.

      I’m cool with either.

    2. Tony

      Hi Josephus,

      It is nice to hear somebody is trying.
      I have tried putting together a zero point energy device.
      Maybe we can both join hands to something.

  39. Josephus Hap

    Some Aliens just pointed at the big spheres, when I asked how that “thing” worked. When I remembered it years later, I figured it out in two minutes, patented it and suggested it to Nasa Propulsion Engineers in Cleveland, Ohio.
    They were “No interested!”
    Who would need them, if a Shuttle was equipped with that technology and could fly in a feww hours to the Moon, using a constant 1 G acceleration and braking?
    Sleep well USA, maybe Russia is interested.
    “Whoever rules Space, rules the World!”

    1. Chris Porter

      Why keep repeating your self when asked a question? Furthermore, why do you keep this so called “wonderful technology” info to yourself.. You preach of how it would change the world but are you not like the U.S. Gov who continues to keep useful technologies from the public due to greed? I think either your full of horse manurer or worse a bull shit artist

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