by John E. Dunn, TechWorld, January 11, 2011
Posted here: Monday, January 31, 2011 @ 1:45 PM
A Nobel Prize winning biologist has ignited controversy after publishing details of an experiment in which a fragment of DNA appeared to ‘teleport’ or imprint itself between test tubes.
According to a team headed by Luc Montagnier, previously known for his work on HIV and AIDS, two test tubes, one of which contained a tiny piece of bacterial DNA, the other pure water, were surrounded by a weak electromagnetic field of 7Hz.
Eighteen hours later, after DNA amplification using a polymerase chain reaction, as if by magic the DNA was detectable in the test tube containing pure water.
Oddly, the original DNA sample had to be diluted many times over for the experiment to work, which might explain why the phenomenon has not been detected before, assuming that this is what has happened.
The phenomenon might be very loosely described as ‘teleportation’ except that the bases project or imprint themselves across space rather than simply moving from one place to another.
To be on the safe side, Montagnier then compared the results with controls in which the time limit was lowered, no electromagnetic field was present or was present but at lower frequencies, and in which both tubes contained pure water. On every one of these, he drew a blank.
The possible quantum effect – the apparent imprinting of the DNA on the water – is not in itself the most contentious element of the experiment, so much as the relatively long timescales over which it appears to manifest itself. Quantum phenomena are assumed to show their faces in imperceptible fractions of a second and not seconds minutes and hours, and usually at very low temperatures approaching absolute zero.
Revealing a process through which biology might display the underlying ‘quantumness’ of nature at room temperature would be startling.
Montagnier’s experiment will have to be repeated by others to have any hope of being taken seriously. So far, some scientists have been publically incredulous.
“It is hard to understand how the information can be stored within water over a timescale longer than picoseconds,” said the Ruhr University in Bochum’s Klaus Gerwert, quoted by New Scientist magazine, which broke the story (requires registration).
What does all of this mean? It could be that the propagation of life is able to make use of the quantum nature of reality to project itself in subtle ways, as has been hinted at in previous experiments. Alternatively, it could be that life itself is a complex projection of these quantum phenomena and utterly depends on them in ways not yet understood because they are incredibly hard to detect.
Speculatively, (and Montagnier doesn’t directly suggest anything so unsubstantiated), it could also be the little-understood quantum properties of the water molecule and not just its more obvious chemical bonding properties that gives it such a central role in the bio-engineering of life-forms. Water might be a good medium in which DNA can copy itself using processes that hint at quantum entanglement and ‘teleportation’ (our term).
Montagnier’s paper goes on to discuss the phenomenon he claims to have uncovered using ‘quantum field theory’ within the context of his personal interest, disease propagation.
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I would like to recall the canonical studies regarding template-free generation of RNA species. In these studies demonstrated virtually the same team that obtained team of Luc Montagnier, that is, the synthesis of short fragments RNA on RNA matrices phantoms .
1. Biebricher C.K., Eigen M., Luce R. Product analysis of RNA Generated de novo by Qb Replicase. J.Mol.Biol. v.148, p.369-390 (1981).
2. Biebricher C.K., Luce R., Template-free generation of RNA species that replicate with bacteriophage T7 RNA polymerase. The EMBO Journal, v.15, Issue 13, p.3458-3465 (1996).
3. Mills D.R., Peterson R.L., Spiegelman S., An extracellular Darwinian experiment with a self-duplicating nucleic acid molecule. Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci. USA, v.58, p. 217-224 (1967).
4. Spiegelman S., Haruna I., Holland I.B., Beaudreau G., Mills D.R., The synthesis of a self-propagating and infectious nucleic acid with a purified enzyme. Proc. Nat. Acad. Sci. USA, v.54, p. 919-927 (1965).
I would like to add that the phantoms of the DNA I was first registered in 1984, but publish it in a very short version was only in 1991. In 1995 it was a funny story when my co-author of one of the articles, Poponin, asked me to publish the joint work on the phantoms of the DNA in an extended version. In this work Poponin took no part. Taking away my materials, Poponin goes to US and published there in 1995 my results under his own name, referring to our joint published work, which had no direct relation to the discovery of DNA phantoms. By this time in 1994 I published a monograph «Wave genome” (in Russian), which had a large part relative to the DNA phantoms. I am writing this because now begin scientific race related to with DNA phantom memory based on paper of Luc Montagnier team and may be on our information concerning the introduction of DNA into the water. It is very important to consider that our Russian crystallographer NA Bul’enkov in 1988 created a copy of DNA, RNA and proteins using water molecules. This is a real structural framework for our results and experiments of Luc Montagnier team.
I noticed that there was a big anti homeopathy rally (??!) in the uk this week. Surely this new research proves alternative remedies I an extent?
I know that’s not the burning issue but it irritates me how narrow minded people are..
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Magyarországon (Hungary) pedig repülőgépekről permeteznek laboratoriumi anyagokat amitől az emberek betegek lesznek…és a ADS, h1n1 stb mind laboratoriumban készült virus az emberek elpusztitására a HAARP-pal együtt!
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Anyone interested in this story should check out the work of Rupert Sheldrake and his theory of Morphogenetic fields. :)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Sheldrake
Extrapolating the consequences of this – I’m glad that there is (almost) definitive proof of such successful ‘alternative’ medicines such as homeopathy…. Which have proven to be very successful in treating ailments, allergies and conditions. So much happens at the quantum and sub quantum level we just don’t understand – maybe scientists may be less inclined to dismiss things out of hand so readily in the future? Hmm. No probably not :)
Those interested in the ramifications of Montagnier’s work, track down the work of Peter Gariaev both before and after he left Russia for Canada.
Where can I find all his papers? All i find are the same phantom dna texts.
Luc and his team have been on parallel track with others heading in the same direction: the wave genome of human RNA/DNA, which makes our epigenetic potential even more exciting; we are literally at the information level of our genetic make up, which again literally gives us keys to them (RNA-DNA) through natural languages, English, Swedish, French, ANY language spoken by the person who attempts to directly affect and influence his own “genetic upgrading.’ Ain’t life grand!
Wes, we’ve been using techniques that influence RNA/DNA at the information level for longevitality, the book about which you’ve already seen. We are now on the 10th year of a 30 year study to see how these soft technologies affect health, the presence of multiple alleles across the board (at least where the given gene is used more often). I’m most interested in seeing how the kids from the participating families manage to use this knowhow on themselves. Will keep you post, now that Luc et al are out with their. Peter has been quiet recently, but I’m sure he and his people have not been sitting iddle.
“Some of the main scientific findings from HAARP include:
1. Generation of very low frequency radio waves by modulated heating of the auroral electrojet, useful because generating VLF waves ordinarily requires gigantic antennas
2. Production of weak luminous glow (below what can be seen with the naked eye, but measurable) from absorption of HAARP’s signal
3. Production of extremely low frequency waves in the 0.1 Hz range. These are next to impossible to produce any other way, because the length of a transmit antenna is dictated by the wavelenth of the signal it is designed to produce.
4. Generation of whistler-mode VLF signals which enter the magnetosphere, and propagate to the other hemisphere, interacting with Van Allen radiation belt particles along the way
5. VLF remote sensing of the heated ionosphere”
Might sound a little away from the topic but could they use those VLF and ELF waves to propagate their own harmfull genetic information and prevent people from “upgrading” their own genetic info???