Maria Orsic and the Vril Society

Published here: Monday May 4, 2009 at 7:24 PM 

This is a pretty important article for future reference. Never mind that this information comes from a White Extremists Forum, it doesn’t make the information less valid. Needless to say, I do not agree with the people on that forum. Those who followed my previous blog, temporarily deleted, remember Maria Orsic. The rest of you, please just read and remember for the future. Wes.

Maria Orsic
Maria Orsic

Maria Orsic, also known as Maria Orschitsch was a famous medium who became the leader of the Vril Gesellschaft. She was born in Vienna (Austria). Her father was a Croatian immigrant from Zagreb, her mother was from Vienna.

Maria soon followed the German national movement which was active at this time; the main goal of the movement was to annex Austria with the German Reich. In the year 1919 Maria moved to München, to her boyfriend, who became later her fiancé. It is unknown whether they married or not, because they both disappeared in 1945.

In Munich Maria was in contact with the Thule Gesellschaft and soon she created her own circle together with Traute A. from Munich and several other friends: the “Alldeutsche Gesellschaft für Metaphysik”, official name of the Vril Gesellschaft. All of them were young ladies, which among other things were against the arising fashion of short hair-styles for women. Both Maria and Traute were beautiful ladies with very long hair; Maria was blond and Traute was brown-haired. They had long horse tails, a very uncommon hairstyle at that time. This became a disctinctive characteristic in all the women who integrated Vril which was maintained till May 1945. They believed that their long hair acted as cosmic antennae to receive alien communication from beyond. In public, however, they hardly ever exhibited the hair in horse tail style. For identification, Vril members (also called “Vrilerinnen”) wore a disk which represented the two mediums: Maria Orsic and Sigrun.

In December 1919 a small group of persons from Thule, Vril and DHvSS (Men of the black stone) rented a small forester’s lodge in the vicinity of Berchtesgaden (Germany) where they met, accompanied by Maria Orsic and another medium who is only known as Sigrun. Maria claimed to have received mediumistically transmissions in a secret German Templar script – a language unknown to her – containing technical data for the construction of a flying machine. Vril documents mention these telepathic messages had their origin in Aldebaran, a solar system 68 light-years away in the constellation Taurus. She had two piles of papers: one with the Templar script, the other with a legible writing. Maria suspected the second pile would be written in an ancient eastern language and therefore she could be aided by the “Panbabylonists”, a circle close to the Thule society which was integrated by Hugo Winckler, Peter Jensen, Friedrich Delitzsch and others. It turned out that the apparently misterious language was actually ancient Summerian and hence the language of the ancient Babylonian culture founders. Sigrun, from the Vril gesellschaft helped translate the language and decipher the strange mental images of a circular flight machine.

The concept of “other science” (or “alternative science”) matured in this time and the following years. Because of the financing difficulties it took three years until the flying machine project started taking shape. By 1922, parts for the machine began arriving independently from various industrial sources paid in full by Thule and Vril.

In late November 1924 she visited Rudolf Hess in his apartment in Munich, together with Rudolf von Sebottendorf, the founder of the Thule Gesellschaft. Sebottendorf wanted to contact Dietrich Eckart, who had deceased one year before. Eckert had translated Ibsen’s plays into German and had published the magazine “Auf gut Deutsch”; he had also been a member of the Thule Gesellschaft. To establish contact with Eckart, Sebottendorff and other Thulists (amongst them Ernst Schulte-Strathauss) joined hands around a black-draped table.

Kolberg in 1940
Kolberg in 1940

Hess found unnerving to watch Maria Orsic’s eyeballs rolling back and showing only whites, and to see her slumping backward in her chair, mouth agape. However Sebottendorff smiled in satisfaction as the voice of Eckart started coming out of the medium. Eckart announced that he was obliged to let someone else’s voice come through, with an important message. A weird voice then identified itself as “the Sumi, dwellers of a distant world, which orbits the star Aldebaran in the constellation you call Taurus the Bull”. Hess and Schulte-Strathaus blinked at each other in surprise. According to the voice, the Sumi were an humanoid race who had briefly colonized Earth 500 million years ago. The ruins of ancient Larsa, Shurrupak and Nippur in Iraq had been built by them. Those of them who survived the great flood of Ut-napishtim (the Deluge of Noah’s Ark) had become the ancestors of the Aryan race. Sebottendorff remained skeptical and asked for proof. While Maria was still in a trance, she scribbled several lines of queer-looking marks. Those marks turned out to be ancient Summerian characters, the language of the founders of the oldest Babylonian culture.

In December 1943 Maria attended, together with Sigrun, a meeting held by Vril at the seaside resort of Kolberg. The main purpose of the meeting was to deal with the “Aldebaran project”. The Vril mediums had received precise information regarding the habitable planets around the sun Aldebaran and they were willing to plan a trip there. This project was discussed again the 22nd January 1944 in a meeting between Hitler, Himmler, Dr. W. Schumann (scientist and professor in the Technical University of Munich) and Kunkel of the Vril Gesellschaft. It was decided that a Vril 7 “Jäger” would be sent through a dimension channel independent of the speed of light to Aldebaran. According to N. Ratthofer (writer), a first test flight in the dimension channel took place in late 1944. The test flight almost ended in disaster because after the flight the Vril 7 looked “as if it had been flying for a hundred years”. Its outer skin looked aged and had suffered damages in several places.

Maria Orsic disappeared in 1945. The 11th of March of 1945 an internal document of the Vril Gesellschaft was sent to all its members; a letter written by Maria Orsic. The letter ends: “niemand bleibt hier” (noone is staying here). This was the last announcement from Vril, and since then noone heard again from Maria or the rest of members. It is speculated they escaped to Aldebaran.

Wes Penre’s note: There will be more information regarding Maria Orsic and her direct involvement in current events on the final blog site.


A. Marco – Vril, ovnis y sociedades secretas
Barry Taylor – Vril Society “The Yellow Book” no. 5
Joseph Trainor – UFO Roundup, 10-6
Wikipedia – Vril
Various authors – Vril Gesellschaft (Politik Forum)
N. Ratthofer – Das Vril Projekt
Mental Ray – Vril Geist


151 thoughts on “Maria Orsic and the Vril Society

  1. L.A.West

    It is my belief – that as much as they, Maria and Others, would have liked to have gone to an Alien Solar System – but couldn’t. Metallurgy sciences weren’t the Vril UFO Crafts has shown – and I also suspect that the device known as the “BELL” was somehow a part of the inter-dimensional capabilities of the VRIL Craft – and it was proven to be very unstable and dangerous, as it bent time, dimension and space around it. The allies got a hold of one these things being tested and developed further – only there was no operating manuals, instructions and the NAZI scientist involved with that were all dead… and when the American and Allied forces took back to the states and tinkered with it – disaster was the reward. The continually toyed with the design and back engineered it- to understand more what it was that the NAZI’s had developed – and it was DARK MAGIC – AND SCIENCE Blended together. Real VooDoo Science at that time. MARIA had really tapped into a comic conscious and another Alien Race. Remember – that during the Sumerian Epoch – the Anunnaki were said to have come from another world… ( Sitchen ) and it was they who created human society, complete with slavery and interbreeding with human females and everything. Human Beings until their arrival had been Simian like hunter- gatherers – they they were culled, and genetically modified time after time until the Anunnaki had a somewhat intelligent subservient slave race to do as they wanted. As well as SEX SLAVES because it this interbreeding that bore the Giant Races. The Anunnaki were Giants as well compared to the new race of man. It was them who were directly responsible for the megalithic stone architectures around the globe… from the Great Pyramid, the Massive Stella’s, the Stone Foundations of Baalbek, to Puma Punku… and apparently this was going on one hell of lot further back than modern scholars and historians are willing to wrap the puny brains around. 500+ million years ago would have still seen Dinosaurs and Mega Fauna roaming around on Earth. Also- are the YETI’s and BigFoot Animals left overs from that time of early experimentation? Were the Anunnaki responsible in some manner for a global environmental catastrophe that caused the Great Flood – complete with Noah getting warnings to prepare a floating super bunker and carry in it – all the genetic material, scientists, animal husbandman, and horticulturist’s, to re-seed the world again because the coming storm was going to be a whopper of unimaginable scale? I think so. The Epic Indian Vedas tell of wars between Super Beings in flying UFO’s – Vimana’s – who used terrible deadly weapons, and ultimately Nuclear Bombs which is the story behind Sodom and Gomorrah. It is these same Super Beings that gave birth to forced religious worship which filtered down to the Pharaoh’s, Aztec’s and Mayan’s. The progenitor of All Ancient Egyptian God worship was Anubis – who was a real being – and not from Earth – but from the Star’s of Orion. The Sphinx was actually a model of Him! So what happened? How come these beings left, or perhaps couldn’t get back, and then just died out or were murdered by man? It my hypotheses that these descendants of the travelers, the actual Anunnaki blood line, the Cone Heads, were systematically wiped out because they were brutal Slave masters… to wit – the Aztec and Mayan’s who were blood and flesh lusting cannibals. I think this was this going on in Egypt and what in now Iraq and Iran too – and if for any reason, an overlord didn’t like you and you weren’t slaving hard enough to suit them – you ended up on the Hors d’oeuvre table. I mean common on now – Ramesses the Great had 1000’s of concubines! He fathered 1000’s of children. That’s one hell of a lot of laying around and balling your eyes out! And he still had time to go to war and vanquish his enemies? So what happened to these kids, and more especially, those aging out concubines? Retirement or was it perhaps the Rotisserie? It was said that he loved all of his Wives, Concubines and Children – because they were so lip smacking delicious and the gravy was savory too! THIS THEN isn’t the side of Egyptology you’re being schooled in- is it? That sure would drive you with incentives to bust your hump seven days a week wouldn’t it? Most Egyptian workers only lived to be around 24 years old, and they were spent, broken and more than likely eaten. Only the really special deserving ones were buried in the desert in un-royal holes in the ground. So – was this the trip to the Aldebaran System going to be a great vacation for Maria Orsic and her Merry Band of Trans-mentalist’s? Imagine what was then laying at the end of the line for them, had they actually had a craft that could have warped time and space to deliver them safe and sound to the waiting meat grinder in time for celebratory dinner featuring Human Ka-Bobs! NO indeed – they left via one or two working Haunebu Crafts for New Swabia, Argentina, Venezuela, Brazil or Chile. Keep in mind, when American and British forces went to Seek Out and Destroy any NAZI’s on the Antarctic Continent – they were met by a foe who had weaponry they couldn’t match and left with their balls kicked and tails between their legs… and this still remains a largely closed chapter in the historical record of what actually happened there… UFO’s were seen all over South America for decades following the War, and the looked exactly like the VRIL-Haunebu Crafts. These same crafts were seen up the west coast of the USA and some surmise, a few of them were confiscated and made operational early models of the Haunebu Crafts being back engineered and further perfected by the SPOOK WORKS CIA and US Air Force. Today we have the TR-3 b Flying Anti-Gravity Triangle Craft as well as other super spooky secret flying craft. Do we have OFF WORLD or Alien space craft too? Probably. I think, that Maria and her gang messing around with communicating with alien entities, opened up a portal and a direct channel for inter-stellar beings to once again find their way here – and let’s keep in mind here too – the Black Knight UFO-Satellite, which is supposedly 30 – 40 Thousand Years old is now and has been monitoring us – for what purposes is unknown – and we can’t investigate it ( or have we and what we found it is terrifying ) as the thing disappears and the reappears somewhere else. Is it responsible for crop circle communication? I bet it is. And what of the UFO’s we see that cannot be explained? OH yeah, they’re here, and they’re taking cruise ship tours of the Earth, as some of these things are absolutely massive – with windows, and beings looking out. I have a hunch that Maria – was found – and she lived out her days in either the USA or Canada, under a different name, teaching and helping to further the study of her other worldly connections and space crafts – until she died. She was born in 1898 – so by wars ending she was already in her 50’s. I doubt she lived to be an old woman – as the type of life that being a semi-conscious auto-writing transcendentalist would age one fast. At least she wasn’t the main course served up with a nice Chianti and fava beans! Edgar Cayce didn’t last long either, he was transcendentalist too. So there you have it – thus ends today’s thrilling, action packed, mind blowing installment of VRILOLOGY 102 and pseudo history by L.A. West. Chao! Class Dismissed.

    1. I am a researcher of many years and agree with much of your appraisal. That the Annunaki (technically Reptilian-Zetans) first visited Terra hundreds of thousands of years ago, colonized, and eventually pursued mixing their DNA with the already evolving hominids here in order to genetically manifest a slave race of Homo sapiens to – according to Sitchen’s archaeological findings – mine for gold. However, I differ with your opinion on the monolithic structures. Yes, there were and are giants in existence – one was killed in recent times, a story spiked by the media and the government ( – but the giants did not build the monolithic structures.

      What really happened is that about twelve thousand yeas ago there was a nuclear war. The ancient Rama empire of India noted that the Atala empire (more commonly known as Atlantis) had weapons that could level an entire city (i.e., atomic). The war erupted between the subjugating and harvesting Annunaki/Reptilians – the Reticulan empire – and Atala. There was a nuclear exchange. The end result was that the Reticulans won after deploying their far more powerful antimatter weapons. (Reference: for an understanding of Reticulan antimatter technology). The consequent nuclear holocaust caused widespread earthquakes, the end of Atala, and The Great Flood which is documented in various ancient cultures. (It also did some other things which I will leave for a future post.) The Atalan refugees used their advanced technology (i.e., gravity wave/anti-gravity technology), before it broke down beyond minor repair, to build the monolithic structures around the world, in testament to their lost civilization.

  2. Maria and what was left of The Vril Society most likely didn’t go off-world. Instead, she made a discreet and rapid exit, with the help of the Nazis and likely via one of the hundred (to be reported missing after the war) German submarines, to the underground Nazi base in Antarctica. Exactly what Hitler did.

  3. Aldebaran and Alderan. Does anyone see the similarity? It could be a coincidence but I personally don’t think so. The star Aldrbaran and the sorcerer character Alderan from the epic poem “The Siege Of Sziget” may have been mixed up while in a trance state. Add some pre mk-ultra nazi mind control and/or propaganda and who knows what the true story is. Those nazis sure were interested in vril whether it was/is true or not though. V for victory or V for Vril? Maybe the vril won ww2. If they exist. Or is vril a lifeforce like serpent/viper nahash/nachash? נָחָשׁ

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  8. Paul Caruso

    I always love hearing about Maria Orsic, UFO’s,free energy. Hitler, hollow earth, Antartica any and all of it. Mainstream history is mostly bullshit written by either people with $ signs in their eyes or a political agenda. Someday I would like to walk hand in hand with both Hitler and Maria Orsic to another world

  9. “Maria Orsic: the beautiful medium which would have got alien technology to Nazi Germany… One of the leaders of the secret society “Breakerz” supposedly reached out to a race of aliens who gave instructions to build flying saucers.
    In March 1945 Maria Orsic would have received communication from his messengers predicting the defeat Nazi before the end of that year. Realized it to several friends, some of them as the horten brothers, they came out of Germany and escaped to Argentina.

    On Thursday, 15 March 1945, Maria Orsic met with Dr. Schumann for the last time, this gave him a package with all the documents and plans of Ufos Germans and they got fired.

    Three days later, Maria and his group breakerz went to the hangars from Munich to take possession of one of the dishes and came out in an unknown direction. They were never found.
    We could keep writing but up here, I don’t want to bore you.” JT

  10. rollypolly

    While we are moving toward 5D Earth, only those of pure heart and peace within themselves and within the whole planet and Universe can ascend. As for 3D people travel tbrough the Universe 68 light years is imposible. Bunch of nazis with the biggest horrors commited toward the same kind wouldn’t be even able to ascend.
    Also there are many pictures of Maria. She looks in each of them different and not very pretty. The most famous one where she is pretty and so 70s looking it is probably not her.

    1. Walter

      So if Maria did travel away in the time travel bell they were designing maybe I can still meet her somewhere and shes still the same age of the photo above.

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    1. They rule the world so well that they’re poisoning the Earth and all of its inhabitants. Poor management from the service-to-self crowd leads to their own demise as we are currently witnessing. The guard is changing. The cycle ends. And I believe most of those whom you speak of are fleeing to South America, underground or even off-world for the elite of the elites. So much for ‘ruling.”

  12. frsnk zamlen

    i am interested in pre 1945 Germany good article if you search you can find all kinds of intriguing and weird things that happened during this period would like more info on vril and orsic thanks

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  16. Ray

    I have become seriously interested in the missing U boats, and German personnel that disappeared after the war. I am also very curious to read an English translation of Maria Orsic’s last transmission to the Vril society. I have second hand accounts of what it said , and every article says the same thing …It ends with “no one is staying here…”
    Well, what I have heard , it was a radio transmission , pretty choppy…It starts with “Only one day left…only one more day…and “We are leaving…The Others….Or possibly “We are leaving the others…” the message was disjointed , perhaps talking about their ships, and something about a “nitroglycerine engine” which is news to me . Has anyone ever made such a thing? Any leads on a transcription would be highly appreciated.

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  18. What happened to her? Can’t find any wikipedia article about her, but I did watch a documentary that speculates if they finally built that spaceship and went to Aldebaran.

      1. Like many characters of WW-II, she disappeared along with any info into the black hole to nowhere. She along with SS Gen. Hans Kammler, the chief of the Gestapo Muller and Martin Borrman disappeared in thin air after the cease of hostilities in Germany. Mush has been said concerning their escape by a UFO, that requires more proof than what we have now. It is my opinion the Federal Govt. is quite aware of their status. They may have been under protection of Operation Paperclip and or fled to South America.

  19. qwerty

    Maria Orsic was born 31/10/1895 in vienna Austria . Her father’s name is Tomislav Orsic he was born in Croatian . Her mother’s name is Sabine Orsic was German . In WW2 Maria Orsic she was a medium in the Vril society in Germany . On the 11 of March 1945 she left a letter ending in “niemand bleibt hier ” none is staying here . After the war she was taken USA in opration paper clip She had a child named yolanta raffa She did not marry anyone in the Raffa family and she would of been born between 1945 and 1950 . Maria Orsic married into rockefeller family .

    1. How do you know what happened to her? The last I heard, it was thought that she just disappeared and some think she left on an ufo that was seen flying over Hamburg(sic) just before she disappeared.

    2. she was not taken to paperclip. that was a military operation and Vril is not associated in any way. Vril was metaphysical in nature and Maria and her associates did not approve of using the technology given to them for military purposes even thought that’s what Hilter did with the information.

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